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calling all beings y'all

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yeah

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welcome back to calling all beings today

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i'm calling all beings aka artisan dj uh

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nathan didn't even mention

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i was looking at it i was like this is

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there's a joke here if i'm making

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skincare formula doesn't that make me an

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artisan you are an artisan man

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everything is bespoke

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[Laughter]

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like

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nate i'll tell you what nathan when i

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look at you i just the word that pops

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into my head is bespoke so that is my

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co-host and co-conspirator money nathan

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how you doing brother good man good very

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excited for the show today very excited

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we did man i'll tell you what uh i'll

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tell you what first i'm gonna net we're

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gonna introduce the other cabbies and

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nathan gonna make this announcement uh

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kevin um now that your computer's uh

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your computer speakers are off you left

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the conditioner in your hair which i

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think looks great

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uh hi

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oh hey how's it going guys how's it

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going what's up he's making like that

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the dude from caddyshack the little the

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kind of practice in my faces you know

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those voice actors they make those faces

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you know when they talk

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incredible range kevin thanks

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and our our researcher deb uh uh you

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know the woman who is all over the place

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in the phenomenon she's got it on lock

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uh she also is the host of uh debs data

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dojo data dojo hi deb hi everyone happy

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sunday

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to the f-16 legend now nathan got

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announcement he finn to mate

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indeed i do so our show calling all

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beings has been doing shows for a while

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now and uh as many of you know we are

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very blessed to have another show that

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is a part of our uh kind of family of

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content uh debs data dojo yeah

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over here this one excellent content if

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you haven't checked out deb's dated dojo

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please so

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it is on our uh podcast feed and uh is

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packed chock full of content there is no

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shortage of excellent material there

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but we are excited to announce today

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that we are adding another uh

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collection to our our group and that is

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uh shane and allison from the secret

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knowledge yeah

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big shout out to them i know a lot of

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you may not have

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heard of their content but it's awesome

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and you will hear of it because it's

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very very good uh so you'll be seeing

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their content on our podcast feed and uh

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on our sort of youtube playlists as well

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and uh we'll be having them we actually

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show and we'll you'll be seeing more of

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them as we go on so our our little

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family is growing and we're excited to

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announce that today

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yeah so definitely uh two people both of

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them former uh college english teachers

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from the poetry slant shane uh at

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southern missouri these guys are they're

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because again we're not here to be

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famous we're here to have great

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conversations we thought that we were

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them we did and as soon as that we got

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them join our little uh uh cab podcast

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network which is really uh nothing to

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change the universe we're really just uh

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a collection of people that uh we can

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enjoy talking to and bring other people

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into our are the spreading uh the

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positivity and our values and and bring

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other people into the circle that's all

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it is so uh with that nathan

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let's bring him on i got to this brother

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right here is my brother from the usaf

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he's my brother in aviation he's my

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brother in phenomenology

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and he's my brother in open-minded

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so party people

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put your hands together for the f-16

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pilot mr chris

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good to see you good to have you with us

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i'll tell you what it's it's been a

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while man since we had john with troy i

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he's probably flying his ass off with uh

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fedex right now uh going across the pond

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uh but i had a question for you to kick

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things off uh chris

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uh i know that you have a project going

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on with alexei i rewatched your episode

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with artisan tony uh that's why i'm

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artisan dj today

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because i make skin care formula i mean

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i from scratch

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and i i think that qualifies me right as

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an artisan

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maybe no what

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what i'm come on what do you make what

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is this hold on dj skin care formula uh

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anybody yep

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he's not joking either no i'm not i

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don't have a can of it i think it counts

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legit yeah i make it from scratch

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nathan has some and smells great yeah

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and uh also are there any benefits

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my face when i was active duty and see

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my face today i probably look younger

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today i swear what's in it what um

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sunflower oil don't give it all the way

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dj no no no no no no no no

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it says on the can what's in there

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anybody's free to do that i don't you

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know make your own um

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organic sunflower oil organic shea

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butter from ghana

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um and uh i put an essential oil in it

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called on guard from doterra

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i know that essential oil so those

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ingredients is is all that it is but it

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has peppermint and something else in it

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a confluence of oils that they put

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great i mean you can drink you can drink

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uh a doterra on guard if you put it in

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water but anyway

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um so i'm an artisan i mean artisan

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county what's up brother so anyway i

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hope artisan tony is here is he here

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i wish he was i'd like but he might be i

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don't know um but anyway chris so you

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you have this collaboration with alexa

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which i think is amazing because you

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guys are so great on air together do you

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you know given the uh incredible hair

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game that he has do you feel any

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pressure um to up your hair game in

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that's actually a pretty good question

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i think i'm good i think i'm good okay

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so i mean if you need to ask a lot i met

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him personally we hung out

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we had this amazing romantic night in uh

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disney world i went to disney world in

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january like during the height of the

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pandemic we did our family you know once

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in a lifetime trip there

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and uh met with alexei

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he invented or created an electric

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hoverboard which is a electric

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skateboard right and you have a little

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controller on it that makes it go faster

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studio sorry it was universal studios

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fire in the sky or so he's like what's

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that i swear to god and like uh i'm like

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i don't know and it was looked like a

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comet you know like going really slow

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um and to where i was like everybody

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all right everybody look at me like that

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was crazy man they just like ran off i

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was like no no you you i'm serious

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everyone he sounded like johnny utah

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prepared people did not help me they ran

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actually and and and so we finished and

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we're and then we're like hey are we

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crazy man like uh

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and this guy comes up and he's like did

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what was that like a meteor or something

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it but uh wild he's dope one time we've

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hung out man and uh yeah we're gonna

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hang out in uh the megacon i put this up

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behind me uh may 27th

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he's coming up man we got an event

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planned it's gonna be big you guys are

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headed out to the ranch man you might be

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near the ranch right

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uh it's hosted by blind uh blind frog uh

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ranch okay

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so and it'll be at blind fog ranch

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outpost which is like in front of utah

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your updates there uh and now that

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you've answered my ridiculousness no

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moose no gel no hair care anything let

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me pass it over to money nathan

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yeah chris great to see you again uh we

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usually end the show like this but i

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would like to start the show like this

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so tell us what you're working on right

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now because i think a lot of the

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questions we're going to get into if

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revolve around your current interests

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and not just like what you're studying

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but the community that you're kind of

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building so tell us a little bit about

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what's going on in your universe

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non-stop you know um

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i'm super excited about it actually so i

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started my youtube channel and

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the first videos i made was about nfts

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actually and it was about uh blockchain

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technology um i was you know i i wanted

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to be like maybe a futurist i was kind

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of interested in that future technology

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so in and investing so i was talking

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uh what what the next technologies will

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basically be um the five kind of

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revolutionary technologies and there's a

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big argument from arc invest that

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basically there's five main technologies

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that are coming together you know it's

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basically artificial intelligence uh

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blockchain uh technology

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anyway uh blockchain technology so

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for um

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my initial start of my channel so i did

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some i really researched it

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future um

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it's web 3.0 it's really what it is and

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nfts is just once

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i think very important part of that

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whole

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revolution coming essentially well when

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you say web 3.0 and i've heard that used

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a lot so can you distill that down what

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does that mean for folks yeah so web one

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is basically one-way information that

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was like dial-up you know so you dial up

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there's a simple web page there you

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can't really interact with it right it's

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kind of that was web 1.0 web 2.0 is

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basically what we're at right now so

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basically

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it's uh we're interacting

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um but there's usually there's some sort

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of intermediary between us um still slow

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um

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it's like social media apps you think of

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that that's web 2.0 the internet is you

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know two-way so web 3.0 uh is basically

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going to be the next version of that and

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so the idea is you're going to have um

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verified trust in digital digital things

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that's really what it brings at least

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for nft technology is now we can

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actually verify things

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um and we can set up basically

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autonomous organizations uh where you

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can set up smart contracts where artists

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are paid you know right now uh if an

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artist sells like a music

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as an nft

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um it's working well in photography

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right they sell their art as a nft the

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cash comes right to them

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immediately to their wallet wherever

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they are in the world right you know

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basically last week i was at this big

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conference in lisbon and this artist

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carlos uh manias

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is a now he's a world famous um nft

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artist from mexico

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because he was he was crying there

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essentially he said when he saw his art

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in a gallery in the metaverse uh it

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basically made him cry because he was uh

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you know it made such an impact um so

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web 3.0 will be the

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it'll link us uh directly uh to remove

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all the intermediaries you know your um

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the problem is your bureaucracies is

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what's going to slow

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slow countries down i think that's

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what's going to kill them you know

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really it's the crushing bureaucracy

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that tumbles and tumbles uh

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countries you know so

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uh this effectively removes that so

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whatever companies or countries will

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will move to this quicker

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right they're gonna be just that much

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level faster in magnitudes of speed of

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bureaucracy and much more efficient

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so

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it's undoubtedly the future um

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i mean i would bet my life on it at this

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point honestly

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the technology is there

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so what i'm trying to do is create use

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that decentralized technology

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and get in at the base level right get

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in um

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while they're creating the technology

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now and try and orient it towards like

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good you know orient it towards

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uh open source getting science

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information right getting science for

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the people so we can build understanding

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and write ourselves into the future

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write humans into the code essentially

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and to be good to the planet like i went

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to this last these last two conferences

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i went to it was super fun we're like

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having it was like the amazing amazing

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parties everybody was it was like you're

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in san francisco in 98 you know 99

364
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right before the big blow up everyone's

365
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so excited the technology is obviously

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proven

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um but i didn't see one mention of the

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word science and i didn't see one

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mentioned the word education

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you know it's all it's all it was sports

371
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casino gambling um pay to earn games

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play to earn

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what did that what did that say to you

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chris if i can

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i got

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i almost wanted to stand up and just

377
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yell decide like i'm going to do that

378
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next conference man if there's not the

379
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word science up there i'm going to yell

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decide you know so we're trying to

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create decentralized science right

382
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because d5 if you've if you're in the

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crypto world at all which you will be

384
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just wait

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uh so

386
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d5 is what everybody's talking about

387
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decentralized finance

388
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um and that's really that's been the

389
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huge buzzword now yeah but no one's even

390
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heard of desai right um in the crypto

391
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world because it doesn't exist because

392
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they don't give a [\h__\h] you know they're

393
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just like doing the same thing we've

394
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always done we're gonna optimize for

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profit you know we're not going to

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consider the planet uh i mean they

397
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mention it they talk about ecolog

398
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ecological things you know and

399
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but

400
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yeah anyway that's the whole project is

401
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to start and i think we can leverage

402
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this whole decentralized movement

403
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leverage the technology create a

404
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community focused on getting the the

405
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truth right through evidence scientific

406
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evidence

407
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and we can't it can't be censored right

408
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because if it's decentralized it can be

409
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censored and anyone on the globe with an

410
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internet connection can't participate

411
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you know

412
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you can get to an internet connection

413
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you can create a wallet and now you can

414
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purchase if you can get money into the

415
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crypto system now you can purchase

416
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um

417
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an nft you can participate you can join

418
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and that money will be used to find

419
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evidence and if that asset if that nft

420
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goes up in value then you can sell it

421
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for a profit

422
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so and the number one thing they're

423
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looking for in a

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successful project the investors the nft

425
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investors the traders is a strong

426
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community right a community devoted to

427
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the mission really is what they're

428
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looking for and that's the one thing

429
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they're looking for so that's all we

430
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need is to create a strong community

431
00:16:21,749 --> 00:16:20,800
that's all really just uh there because

432
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the scientists are already there you

433
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already have uapx you know we have all

434
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these smart superstar scientists what do

435
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they need funding right they can't get

436
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enough money there's not enough funding

437
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anywhere um to do it so the point is

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bring them to the community bring

439
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everybody to the community who wants it

440
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and then now create the community of

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open source information

442
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and the nft money will flow in like we

443
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will use the initial money to market

444
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into the nft community and if they see a

445
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strong community there

446
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then it can easily work it can easily

447
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work i mean there's just so much bs and

448
00:16:55,430 --> 00:16:53,920
nft space that's why everyone thinks

449
00:16:56,790 --> 00:16:55,440
it's bs because there's so much [\h__\h]

450
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like um

451
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yeah because you can just create a

452
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product immediately you know and it

453
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doesn't have to really be anything

454
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behind it most of these people aren't

455
00:17:07,029 --> 00:17:05,439
even doxxed you know they're not even

456
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online nobody knows who they are yeah

457
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you know and they'll so they just cr you

458
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can create just pop up pop up things

459
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very easily quickly

460
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um and then just run and nobody knows

461
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who you really are um so but we're

462
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coming out the date like here we are

463
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right here's the people you know just

464
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bring the money and we can decentralize

465
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it and uh for science so we'll basically

466
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we're gonna launch this very soon um

467
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and so

468
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it's going to be on the discord it's

469
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going to be started on the discord

470
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that's where the community is going to

471
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be and that's how we'll use that to

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communicate

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to vote for you can put science

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proposals up there like say you have

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some proposal

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for whatever you're going to do

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scientifically and now you can put it up

478
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there and we can vote as a community

479
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and with the funds now you can use nfts

480
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we still need to establish this but it's

481
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that is what a dow is a decentralized

482
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autonomous organization

483
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use these nfts to invest the funds

484
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so basically that's how it is yeah

485
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here's the question is

486
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what is the best place to invest money

487
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right now if you want to take part in

488
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uh getting evidence for uaps or finding

489
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the truth

490
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what's your best avenue

491
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yeah i mean i would i guess

492
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without knowing a lot about what you

493
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just talked about i would say either

494
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uapx or galileo right it's

495
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yeah but how do you give it to them i

496
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guess you could find uapx

497
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right that's a good question i mean i

498
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guess you could cut them a check and

499
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just hope that they you use the phones

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wisely right that's

501
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yeah yeah but then you don't you don't

502
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have any say really in how it's even

503
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executed right you know what i'm saying

504
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um because then they have to sign nda

505
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agreements right because maybe they're

506
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they're not funded correctly you know so

507
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then you you wait

508
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but in this instance you can invest

509
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right into an nft

510
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50 of the funds will automatically go or

511
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the max we can possibly do but i still

512
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need to incentivize people to want to go

513
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for profit you know

514
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it has to be profitable if it's not

515
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profitable it's not going to happen

516
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right you know that's the problem

517
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because like our science funding right

518
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now the the universities are going under

519
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essentially because they're a for-profit

520
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right but the science is not the science

521
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not-for-profit the only ones like

522
00:19:22,789 --> 00:19:21,120
funding the science is your your like

523
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fossil fuel companies and your weapons

524
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manufacturers right you know

525
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so this would be a way to put the money

526
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in and it's open source so you can see

527
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what the projects are funded

528
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um because it's it's

529
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in the end it should be decentralized

530
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so chris the the issue with the the um

531
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the nft cash in and the guy that was on

532
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profiled on netflix who died in india

533
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that was like an intermediary company

534
00:19:52,150 --> 00:19:50,080
right where you would use him to to cash

535
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out is that what that was are you

536
00:19:56,630 --> 00:19:54,320
familiar with that documentary is anyone

537
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here yeah i don't know

538
00:20:01,029 --> 00:19:58,400
yeah it's it's very recent but it's a

539
00:20:02,789 --> 00:20:01,039
young man who had a company and i'll

540
00:20:05,110 --> 00:20:02,799
have to i would have to google it while

541
00:20:07,590 --> 00:20:05,120
while somebody's talking uh but

542
00:20:09,270 --> 00:20:07,600
basically it was a company that was uh

543
00:20:11,510 --> 00:20:09,280
allowing you like there was a guy in san

544
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francisco he needed to cash out like

545
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400k

546
00:20:17,669 --> 00:20:14,640
worth of um

547
00:20:20,470 --> 00:20:17,679
worth of his uh bitcoin and it ended up

548
00:20:22,310 --> 00:20:20,480
that that guy took the money but then uh

549
00:20:24,470 --> 00:20:22,320
went was gone and and nothing happened

550
00:20:27,669 --> 00:20:24,480
he never got his money that guy ended up

551
00:20:30,230 --> 00:20:27,679
going on a trip to india and uh

552
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sadly tragically uh maybe not for some

553
00:20:35,669 --> 00:20:32,400
of the people he built but he died

554
00:20:38,149 --> 00:20:35,679
while he was in india and um so anyway i

555
00:20:41,270 --> 00:20:38,159
just uh i don't know if that's like the

556
00:20:43,990 --> 00:20:41,280
cash out services you know is is that a

557
00:20:46,149 --> 00:20:44,000
thing like are you aware of cash out

558
00:20:46,950 --> 00:20:46,159
services how you transfer your money

559
00:20:49,750 --> 00:20:46,960
into

560
00:20:51,029 --> 00:20:49,760
actual cash

561
00:20:53,190 --> 00:20:51,039
i mean i think that's probably that's

562
00:20:55,350 --> 00:20:53,200
the hardest part right now is once your

563
00:20:57,430 --> 00:20:55,360
money is into the system

564
00:20:58,789 --> 00:20:57,440
we call it it's called fiat right once

565
00:21:01,350 --> 00:20:58,799
your fiat

566
00:21:03,430 --> 00:21:01,360
is turned into crypto

567
00:21:04,789 --> 00:21:03,440
now it's super liquid you can move it

568
00:21:06,870 --> 00:21:04,799
around you can do whatever what you want

569
00:21:08,950 --> 00:21:06,880
with it in just a few minutes you know

570
00:21:10,630 --> 00:21:08,960
really um

571
00:21:14,470 --> 00:21:10,640
it yeah

572
00:21:16,310 --> 00:21:14,480
and so but the problem is if it's

573
00:21:18,149 --> 00:21:16,320
if you want to use it in the real world

574
00:21:19,750 --> 00:21:18,159
until there's crypto services that

575
00:21:20,870 --> 00:21:19,760
accept crypto right i think you know

576
00:21:23,029 --> 00:21:20,880
tesla said they were going to accept

577
00:21:25,590 --> 00:21:23,039
bitcoin last year and that kind of went

578
00:21:27,029 --> 00:21:25,600
everything up in a tizzy right

579
00:21:29,750 --> 00:21:27,039
because then they would be able to pay

580
00:21:33,029 --> 00:21:29,760
direct uh from crypto to crypto

581
00:21:34,390 --> 00:21:33,039
and not having to go into fiat right um

582
00:21:36,149 --> 00:21:34,400
because that's where the government

583
00:21:37,750 --> 00:21:36,159
since they're behind the ball right they

584
00:21:40,149 --> 00:21:37,760
taxed us all for crypto last year but

585
00:21:42,390 --> 00:21:40,159
they didn't provide any security right

586
00:21:45,350 --> 00:21:42,400
we still get scammed all the time

587
00:21:47,430 --> 00:21:45,360
uh or did um but they taxed this

588
00:21:49,430 --> 00:21:47,440
um you know the governments they have

589
00:21:51,909 --> 00:21:49,440
their they know all the fiat

590
00:21:53,350 --> 00:21:51,919
ways you know they they know how the

591
00:21:55,350 --> 00:21:53,360
banks work they know how to track you

592
00:21:57,190 --> 00:21:55,360
down how to audit you and everything

593
00:21:58,870 --> 00:21:57,200
um so that's really the sticking points

594
00:22:01,110 --> 00:21:58,880
where it's getting money into the system

595
00:22:01,990 --> 00:22:01,120
and getting money out of the system

596
00:22:03,590 --> 00:22:02,000
um

597
00:22:06,310 --> 00:22:03,600
but if you're like out in the middle of

598
00:22:08,310 --> 00:22:06,320
africa just go with crypto

599
00:22:11,190 --> 00:22:08,320
i know you can accept crypto someone

600
00:22:12,630 --> 00:22:11,200
comes around here's some crypto you know

601
00:22:15,029 --> 00:22:12,640
as long as they accept it at the next

602
00:22:16,310 --> 00:22:15,039
next spot over here's some bitcoin

603
00:22:18,630 --> 00:22:16,320
you know that's why you wouldn't even

604
00:22:20,070 --> 00:22:18,640
need any governments at that point if

605
00:22:22,149 --> 00:22:20,080
you consider it that's why that's what

606
00:22:24,390 --> 00:22:22,159
terrifies them you know is we're not

607
00:22:26,070 --> 00:22:24,400
needed right yeah i mean you still be

608
00:22:27,909 --> 00:22:26,080
needed to regulate it because at any

609
00:22:29,750 --> 00:22:27,919
point someone could just grab you bring

610
00:22:31,110 --> 00:22:29,760
you over to the to the console or

611
00:22:32,950 --> 00:22:31,120
whatever and steal all your money you

612
00:22:34,549 --> 00:22:32,960
know just hey send this to me

613
00:22:36,390 --> 00:22:34,559
um i mean we so we still need

614
00:22:38,070 --> 00:22:36,400
governments um it's just they're gonna

615
00:22:40,630 --> 00:22:38,080
it's gonna be very uncomfortable for

616
00:22:42,870 --> 00:22:40,640
them not telling us exactly how to

617
00:22:45,190 --> 00:22:42,880
control all the money or at least

618
00:22:47,029 --> 00:22:45,200
at least right now they haven't

619
00:22:49,270 --> 00:22:47,039
built in the hooks

620
00:22:51,990 --> 00:22:49,280
central bank world bank type stuff right

621
00:22:54,549 --> 00:22:52,000
yeah it's coming yeah that's xrp i met

622
00:22:56,630 --> 00:22:54,559
those guys at the at the conference

623
00:23:00,549 --> 00:22:56,640
they're doing all the underlying

624
00:23:01,830 --> 00:23:00,559
um super low cost transaction stuff

625
00:23:03,270 --> 00:23:01,840
you know the c

626
00:23:04,149 --> 00:23:03,280
yeah that so they're doing that behind

627
00:23:06,149 --> 00:23:04,159
the scenes and they're and they're

628
00:23:07,830 --> 00:23:06,159
really just delaying everything else

629
00:23:09,270 --> 00:23:07,840
so if it was hard for you to get you

630
00:23:10,630 --> 00:23:09,280
know buy crypto it's probably because

631
00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:10,640
the governments were just trying to slow

632
00:23:13,990 --> 00:23:12,000
it down

633
00:23:15,830 --> 00:23:14,000
because they're they're just i guess

634
00:23:17,430 --> 00:23:15,840
slower lazier i don't know what it is

635
00:23:19,350 --> 00:23:17,440
they know their government so they can

636
00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:19,360
move slower and just tell us what not to

637
00:23:22,789 --> 00:23:20,320
do

638
00:23:25,669 --> 00:23:22,799
but that's the xrp behind it i forget

639
00:23:28,310 --> 00:23:25,679
what they're called it's some compliant

640
00:23:30,070 --> 00:23:28,320
pss compliant or something

641
00:23:32,149 --> 00:23:30,080
yeah well we got to turn it over to

642
00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:32,159
flair and i have a feeling that he is

643
00:23:36,470 --> 00:23:34,559
going to do what aircraft can't do he's

644
00:23:37,270 --> 00:23:36,480
going to make a 90 degree right angle

645
00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:37,280
turn

646
00:23:41,669 --> 00:23:39,600
into the phenomenon i see people getting

647
00:23:43,110 --> 00:23:41,679
zoning out yeah yeah

648
00:23:45,350 --> 00:23:43,120
i love it i could talk about that stuff

649
00:23:46,950 --> 00:23:45,360
for a long time no it's it's fascinating

650
00:23:49,510 --> 00:23:46,960
because you're on the front end of

651
00:23:51,350 --> 00:23:49,520
something and we recognize that

652
00:23:53,269 --> 00:23:51,360
awesome yeah we need you guys in the

653
00:23:54,390 --> 00:23:53,279
community that's it i need you guys if

654
00:23:55,990 --> 00:23:54,400
you guys all

655
00:23:57,909 --> 00:23:56,000
come together and put your money where

656
00:23:59,029 --> 00:23:57,919
your mouth is and your mouth where your

657
00:23:59,990 --> 00:23:59,039
money is

658
00:24:02,149 --> 00:24:00,000
then

659
00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:02,159
we can't it'll work it'll work and

660
00:24:06,149 --> 00:24:04,320
there's a chance if it works it goes big

661
00:24:07,669 --> 00:24:06,159
like it will go big like you know we

662
00:24:09,830 --> 00:24:07,679
want to sell it to you guys to the to

663
00:24:11,110 --> 00:24:09,840
the initial guys for point one eth um

664
00:24:13,510 --> 00:24:11,120
that's pretty much the cheapest we can

665
00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:13,520
possibly make it uh but if it you know

666
00:24:16,789 --> 00:24:15,840
it could easily go to one two ten east

667
00:24:19,510 --> 00:24:16,799
even

668
00:24:21,350 --> 00:24:19,520
um exciting yeah if it does it'd be

669
00:24:24,950 --> 00:24:21,360
awesome so then everybody would be very

670
00:24:25,669 --> 00:24:24,960
happy and everybody would be very happy

671
00:24:27,350 --> 00:24:25,679
cool

672
00:24:29,110 --> 00:24:27,360
that's it sorry

673
00:24:30,870 --> 00:24:29,120
sorry

674
00:24:34,149 --> 00:24:30,880
you're the guest you're on restriction

675
00:24:37,029 --> 00:24:34,159
now later no more nfc time out no more

676
00:24:38,710 --> 00:24:37,039
great we're standing back

677
00:24:40,390 --> 00:24:38,720
we're sending you we're sending you over

678
00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:40,400
to the command post and you're going to

679
00:24:43,430 --> 00:24:41,760
be there for the next week you're off

680
00:24:47,430 --> 00:24:43,440
the flying schedule i'm just going to go

681
00:24:49,110 --> 00:24:47,440
ahead go ahead kev you're grounded

682
00:24:51,190 --> 00:24:49,120
oh wait that means something else for a

683
00:24:52,549 --> 00:24:51,200
pilot sorry yeah that's a bad thing

684
00:24:54,070 --> 00:24:52,559
that's about yeah i won't say that

685
00:24:55,190 --> 00:24:54,080
you're not grounded you're just gonna

686
00:24:57,669 --> 00:24:55,200
work in the command post right it

687
00:24:59,430 --> 00:24:57,679
doesn't hurt i felt a little twinged

688
00:25:01,590 --> 00:24:59,440
i saw that on your face like oh you're

689
00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:01,600
still you're still a q1 lato that's all

690
00:25:06,070 --> 00:25:03,679
i got to say on your check ride go ahead

691
00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:06,080
well thank you for your service chris

692
00:25:09,750 --> 00:25:07,440
how's that

693
00:25:11,190 --> 00:25:09,760
cool welcome also also dj i wanted to

694
00:25:13,350 --> 00:25:11,200
thank you and actually while i'm doing

695
00:25:15,590 --> 00:25:13,360
that thank my dad he was a vietnam

696
00:25:16,390 --> 00:25:15,600
veteran thank you dad nice

697
00:25:19,110 --> 00:25:16,400
so

698
00:25:21,190 --> 00:25:19,120
that being said chris lato hey we're

699
00:25:23,430 --> 00:25:21,200
talking about community stuff anyway so

700
00:25:26,310 --> 00:25:23,440
i have a question that you know it will

701
00:25:27,990 --> 00:25:26,320
fit in so um

702
00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:28,000
on the on to the community part so we

703
00:25:31,990 --> 00:25:30,240
have a lot of a lot of different camps

704
00:25:32,630 --> 00:25:32,000
in the community i notice they break up

705
00:25:34,470 --> 00:25:32,640
and

706
00:25:36,549 --> 00:25:34,480
you know you've got your you've got your

707
00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:36,559
um people the intergalactic travel

708
00:25:42,230 --> 00:25:38,880
people you know you've got your uh

709
00:25:43,990 --> 00:25:42,240
your consciousness people and even um

710
00:25:46,950 --> 00:25:44,000
the people going to the disclosure

711
00:25:49,190 --> 00:25:46,960
symposium it's kind of it may become i'm

712
00:25:51,669 --> 00:25:49,200
worried it may become that camp so what

713
00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:51,679
are what are some of id the ideas for

714
00:25:54,549 --> 00:25:53,039
you guys

715
00:25:55,830 --> 00:25:54,559
to maybe bring this topic to the

716
00:25:56,870 --> 00:25:55,840
mainstream

717
00:25:58,230 --> 00:25:56,880
instead of

718
00:26:00,870 --> 00:25:58,240
you know

719
00:26:04,630 --> 00:26:00,880
kind of keeping it small

720
00:26:09,029 --> 00:26:06,549
bring it out there i mean

721
00:26:11,669 --> 00:26:09,039
yeah we've got the thing is we've got

722
00:26:13,110 --> 00:26:11,679
tik-tok we've got so many different

723
00:26:14,950 --> 00:26:13,120
outlets now

724
00:26:16,870 --> 00:26:14,960
and there's a whole

725
00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:16,880
young generation of people watching this

726
00:26:19,830 --> 00:26:18,880
stuff that we need to bring into this

727
00:26:20,710 --> 00:26:19,840
topic

728
00:26:25,190 --> 00:26:20,720
so

729
00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:25,200
guys have

730
00:26:28,149 --> 00:26:26,480
um

731
00:26:30,390 --> 00:26:28,159
yeah so

732
00:26:32,230 --> 00:26:30,400
we're driving to the

733
00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:32,240
the discord right

734
00:26:36,950 --> 00:26:35,200
so yeah here's an idea um

735
00:26:39,269 --> 00:26:36,960
i was thinking about uh

736
00:26:40,789 --> 00:26:39,279
there's a game that we invented uh two

737
00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:40,799
weeks ago with the little blockchain

738
00:26:45,110 --> 00:26:42,880
group but i think i made it but it i

739
00:26:47,110 --> 00:26:45,120
made it from a study by

740
00:26:50,149 --> 00:26:47,120
raiden dr uh

741
00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:50,159
dean rayden he's from the ionic

742
00:26:53,590 --> 00:26:52,080
science institute institute of bionics

743
00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:53,600
sciences

744
00:26:58,470 --> 00:26:55,600
is a perfect name by the way for that

745
00:27:02,549 --> 00:27:00,310
sciences yeah

746
00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:02,559
it was started by edward mitchell right

747
00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:04,559
that's right institute of noetic science

748
00:27:07,990 --> 00:27:06,400
institute of noetic science yeah

749
00:27:09,029 --> 00:27:08,000
interesting i looked up started by him

750
00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:09,039
interesting

751
00:27:11,510 --> 00:27:10,080
um so

752
00:27:13,029 --> 00:27:11,520
raiden um

753
00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:13,039
talking about consciousness he did a

754
00:27:17,669 --> 00:27:15,600
study on the double slit etc

755
00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:17,679
but he also mentioned

756
00:27:20,950 --> 00:27:20,080
that there was another study they did

757
00:27:23,350 --> 00:27:20,960
that

758
00:27:26,549 --> 00:27:23,360
i call it the who's calling

759
00:27:28,710 --> 00:27:26,559
uh study or who's going to text me next

760
00:27:29,830 --> 00:27:28,720
right so how it will work is and we sit

761
00:27:31,269 --> 00:27:29,840
and we're creating it hopefully on the

762
00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:31,279
discord but i want to make some other

763
00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:32,320
apps

764
00:27:37,190 --> 00:27:34,480
um is basically like i'm it say i'm the

765
00:27:38,149 --> 00:27:37,200
contestant okay so i'm isolated from you

766
00:27:40,470 --> 00:27:38,159
guys

767
00:27:42,230 --> 00:27:40,480
um and there's the four of you that i

768
00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:42,240
consider myself possibility to be

769
00:27:45,190 --> 00:27:44,240
psychic with right i think me and dj for

770
00:27:47,350 --> 00:27:45,200
sure

771
00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:47,360
nathan probably just for through our

772
00:27:52,389 --> 00:27:50,159
bernardo castro kind of mental linkage

773
00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:52,399
yeah um but probably harder with kevin

774
00:27:54,310 --> 00:27:53,440
and deb right because i don't really

775
00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:54,320
know him

776
00:27:58,789 --> 00:27:55,120
um

777
00:28:03,590 --> 00:28:00,710
but who knows and so what what happens

778
00:28:04,710 --> 00:28:03,600
is we do a random number generator right

779
00:28:06,870 --> 00:28:04,720
and

780
00:28:08,549 --> 00:28:06,880
you guys basically pick a number you're

781
00:28:10,549 --> 00:28:08,559
one two three four

782
00:28:12,070 --> 00:28:10,559
you call you talk into google hey pick a

783
00:28:13,830 --> 00:28:12,080
number one through four

784
00:28:16,630 --> 00:28:13,840
and now the number has been selected the

785
00:28:18,389 --> 00:28:16,640
person so let's say it's dj right

786
00:28:19,590 --> 00:28:18,399
now i have to envision who's going to

787
00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:19,600
call me

788
00:28:22,630 --> 00:28:21,200
so you guys all know

789
00:28:24,549 --> 00:28:22,640
dj you get in your mind like you're

790
00:28:26,310 --> 00:28:24,559
going to call me or text me and then i

791
00:28:28,389 --> 00:28:26,320
and then i select a number right who i

792
00:28:31,029 --> 00:28:28,399
think's actually going to do it

793
00:28:33,350 --> 00:28:31,039
so the numbers should be like 25

794
00:28:36,230 --> 00:28:33,360
if we get enough statistical analysis

795
00:28:38,950 --> 00:28:36,240
right if we do over 30 uh events

796
00:28:40,310 --> 00:28:38,960
the number should be 25 based on

797
00:28:43,990 --> 00:28:40,320
there not being

798
00:28:46,470 --> 00:28:44,000
actual telekinetic possibilities right

799
00:28:49,990 --> 00:28:46,480
um according to raiden it's actually

800
00:28:52,149 --> 00:28:50,000
45 is what they found

801
00:28:53,669 --> 00:28:52,159
so if we can do what i was thinking is

802
00:28:55,830 --> 00:28:53,679
like a tick i'm trying to spread it on a

803
00:28:57,669 --> 00:28:55,840
tick tock that was one idea was to do

804
00:28:58,870 --> 00:28:57,679
like a tick tock viral meme game like

805
00:29:02,549 --> 00:28:58,880
that

806
00:29:04,870 --> 00:29:02,559
there's more to

807
00:29:06,549 --> 00:29:04,880
it's like a simple experiment um

808
00:29:09,269 --> 00:29:06,559
if you prove that if you can prove

809
00:29:10,310 --> 00:29:09,279
actually statistically that

810
00:29:13,430 --> 00:29:10,320
you can be

811
00:29:14,870 --> 00:29:13,440
telepathic with someone that pretty much

812
00:29:16,230 --> 00:29:14,880
you know answers a lot of questions that

813
00:29:18,149 --> 00:29:16,240
we had a big deal

814
00:29:20,789 --> 00:29:18,159
yeah then it goes to you know remote

815
00:29:22,549 --> 00:29:20,799
viewings possible um

816
00:29:25,029 --> 00:29:22,559
yeah and why don't we use it for for

817
00:29:27,669 --> 00:29:25,039
good and for fun and do science on it

818
00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:27,679
you know and then so that the discord

819
00:29:31,190 --> 00:29:29,520
they're trying to do it now my uh french

820
00:29:33,909 --> 00:29:31,200
buddies trying to uh build this on the

821
00:29:35,510 --> 00:29:33,919
discord uh this game you know and so we

822
00:29:38,870 --> 00:29:35,520
have people come in you go in there you

823
00:29:40,230 --> 00:29:38,880
can do some little little game like that

824
00:29:42,630 --> 00:29:40,240
and then we would hopefully record the

825
00:29:43,830 --> 00:29:42,640
data um that's one idea

826
00:29:45,430 --> 00:29:43,840
cool

827
00:29:47,350 --> 00:29:45,440
yeah

828
00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:47,360
all right chris i guess

829
00:29:54,389 --> 00:29:52,830
i'm sorry kev did you have a follow-up

830
00:29:55,830 --> 00:29:54,399
um

831
00:29:57,590 --> 00:29:55,840
not really i mean unless you guys were

832
00:29:59,510 --> 00:29:57,600
gonna all start posting you know karaoke

833
00:30:01,190 --> 00:29:59,520
videos i mean that's what that

834
00:30:02,789 --> 00:30:01,200
generation of tick tocks doing you know

835
00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:02,799
you could do that and would you be

836
00:30:06,310 --> 00:30:05,200
willing to do that with you

837
00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:06,320
yeah would you

838
00:30:11,029 --> 00:30:08,480
be willing to do sing a song or yeah

839
00:30:12,470 --> 00:30:11,039
that's that's my question really dancing

840
00:30:13,990 --> 00:30:12,480
i can play you don't have to you just

841
00:30:16,149 --> 00:30:14,000
you just move your mouth you know wait

842
00:30:20,149 --> 00:30:16,159
you missed it he plays guitar kevin

843
00:30:25,990 --> 00:30:22,549
i'll cover for you bro cover for you

844
00:30:29,909 --> 00:30:28,310
it's called

845
00:30:32,070 --> 00:30:29,919
chris i have a question for you but i

846
00:30:33,909 --> 00:30:32,080
need to wait because somebody else who

847
00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:33,919
like you isn't doing anything isn't

848
00:30:38,070 --> 00:30:36,480
putting any effort into anything deb and

849
00:30:40,310 --> 00:30:38,080
by that i mean you guys are putting an

850
00:30:42,470 --> 00:30:40,320
incredible amount of work in um deb

851
00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:42,480
would like to speak with you

852
00:30:49,029 --> 00:30:45,600
okay hi chris um so i caught that you

853
00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:49,039
were interested in crop circles

854
00:30:53,510 --> 00:30:51,360
and recently frank millborn mentioned

855
00:30:56,470 --> 00:30:53,520
that crop circles may have something to

856
00:30:57,830 --> 00:30:56,480
do with ether or the

857
00:30:59,669 --> 00:30:57,840
waves

858
00:31:01,669 --> 00:30:59,679
above the earth and i was wondering what

859
00:31:03,430 --> 00:31:01,679
your thoughts were on that he suspected

860
00:31:07,669 --> 00:31:03,440
they were being formed

861
00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:07,679
by uaps getting close to the planet and

862
00:31:13,269 --> 00:31:10,640
taking energy from the planet

863
00:31:15,669 --> 00:31:13,279
taking energy ah cool

864
00:31:19,389 --> 00:31:17,430
what's his name frank melbourne does he

865
00:31:22,310 --> 00:31:19,399
have frank milburn yeah

866
00:31:23,149 --> 00:31:22,320
f-a-r-n-c as opposed to k

867
00:31:25,590 --> 00:31:23,159
and

868
00:31:27,590 --> 00:31:25,600
m-i-l-b-u-r-n he's a former

869
00:31:30,389 --> 00:31:27,600
british intel officer and before that

870
00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:30,399
he's a british paratrooper cool he wrote

871
00:31:36,710 --> 00:31:33,840
the beta article that was about the task

872
00:31:38,310 --> 00:31:36,720
force it's really in detail

873
00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:38,320
cool

874
00:31:41,509 --> 00:31:39,120
um

875
00:31:42,789 --> 00:31:41,519
yeah to be honest uh my friend here

876
00:31:44,830 --> 00:31:42,799
he's been telling me to look at crop

877
00:31:47,830 --> 00:31:44,840
circles for a while

878
00:31:49,669 --> 00:31:47,840
um and yeah i guess what kind of i

879
00:31:51,190 --> 00:31:49,679
veered me off was i was i interviewed

880
00:31:52,870 --> 00:31:51,200
nick pope

881
00:31:55,110 --> 00:31:52,880
because there was crop circles in there

882
00:31:57,110 --> 00:31:55,120
and he was vehemently you know he

883
00:31:59,590 --> 00:31:57,120
thought it was just a hoax you know

884
00:32:02,630 --> 00:31:59,600
um that was kind of his argument

885
00:32:03,509 --> 00:32:02,640
and i figured he knew a lot so i guess i

886
00:32:05,350 --> 00:32:03,519
just

887
00:32:06,710 --> 00:32:05,360
took a back seat and then i had a patron

888
00:32:07,509 --> 00:32:06,720
basically like hey man what about that

889
00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:07,519
he said you're gonna look at crop

890
00:32:12,549 --> 00:32:10,480
circles and then my buddy um

891
00:32:15,990 --> 00:32:12,559
yeah interesting to me is how it like

892
00:32:20,950 --> 00:32:16,000
mats down you know if you can look at

893
00:32:23,830 --> 00:32:22,310
yeah i mean i guess you would have to

894
00:32:26,389 --> 00:32:23,840
look at ways that it can be matted

895
00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:28,149
it's difficult though yeah do it other

896
00:32:31,990 --> 00:32:29,760
videos of them forming like that would

897
00:32:34,310 --> 00:32:32,000
be yes

898
00:32:37,029 --> 00:32:34,320
i guess my question is specifically what

899
00:32:38,710 --> 00:32:37,039
do you think of the possibility of it

900
00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:38,720
having to do

901
00:32:43,750 --> 00:32:42,000
with the earth's energy

902
00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:43,760
uh yeah i mean i

903
00:32:50,070 --> 00:32:46,080
i could easily

904
00:32:52,389 --> 00:32:50,080
see that i have no idea you know i mean

905
00:32:54,389 --> 00:32:52,399
why would it make like this fancy design

906
00:32:55,750 --> 00:32:54,399
though

907
00:32:57,509 --> 00:32:55,760
just you know

908
00:32:59,269 --> 00:32:57,519
i guess that's what's weird to me

909
00:33:00,950 --> 00:32:59,279
i guess some people argue that the ones

910
00:33:02,789 --> 00:33:00,960
that are faked or the fancy designs and

911
00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:02,799
the really simple ones are like that

912
00:33:09,430 --> 00:33:05,440
energy pool

913
00:33:11,029 --> 00:33:09,440
goes in some spectrum of frequency that

914
00:33:12,470 --> 00:33:11,039
like affects the

915
00:33:14,789 --> 00:33:12,480
biologically

916
00:33:15,990 --> 00:33:14,799
biological

917
00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:16,000
plants

918
00:33:19,590 --> 00:33:18,000
yeah

919
00:33:21,909 --> 00:33:19,600
i've heard where they also where they

920
00:33:23,590 --> 00:33:21,919
break at 90 degree angles is something

921
00:33:25,750 --> 00:33:23,600
like when matted down is something

922
00:33:27,269 --> 00:33:25,760
obviously you could do with you know a

923
00:33:29,110 --> 00:33:27,279
mechanical thing you could take a piece

924
00:33:30,870 --> 00:33:29,120
of wood or something you know they've

925
00:33:33,190 --> 00:33:30,880
shown videos of how people do it but

926
00:33:35,750 --> 00:33:33,200
when some of these stems are broken in a

927
00:33:37,830 --> 00:33:35,760
90 degree angle that's something that's

928
00:33:40,710 --> 00:33:37,840
very difficult to do with uh with the

929
00:33:42,470 --> 00:33:40,720
plant that's live you know and flexible

930
00:33:44,230 --> 00:33:42,480
ah that's it's the breaking that was

931
00:33:45,909 --> 00:33:44,240
cool um

932
00:33:47,830 --> 00:33:45,919
so i don't i haven't looked into it so i

933
00:33:49,269 --> 00:33:47,840
really don't know anything about crop

934
00:33:51,909 --> 00:33:49,279
circles i don't know if anybody else on

935
00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:51,919
the on on the team it's cool though it's

936
00:33:56,950 --> 00:33:54,320
it's good i've been getting um in emails

937
00:33:58,710 --> 00:33:56,960
and then i've been getting leads but

938
00:33:59,830 --> 00:33:58,720
so i looked into it a few

939
00:34:01,750 --> 00:33:59,840
weeks ago

940
00:34:04,149 --> 00:34:01,760
a few months maybe and

941
00:34:06,230 --> 00:34:04,159
i found a group in the uk but

942
00:34:07,830 --> 00:34:06,240
unfortunately the main woman who ran

943
00:34:09,030 --> 00:34:07,840
everything had died so she passed away

944
00:34:10,149 --> 00:34:09,040
so

945
00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:10,159
um

946
00:34:15,349 --> 00:34:11,919
yeah another dead end

947
00:34:17,349 --> 00:34:16,230
chris

948
00:34:20,230 --> 00:34:17,359
the um

949
00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:20,240
you you've consumed a lot that uh

950
00:34:25,030 --> 00:34:22,320
discussion you had with tony and lou

951
00:34:27,030 --> 00:34:25,040
i've told you ad nauseam on several

952
00:34:28,790 --> 00:34:27,040
voice messages i sent you what an

953
00:34:30,629 --> 00:34:28,800
amazing conversation and how

954
00:34:32,310 --> 00:34:30,639
thought-provoking that was

955
00:34:34,869 --> 00:34:32,320
um and you

956
00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:34,879
you brought as much to that table uh as

957
00:34:40,550 --> 00:34:37,919
anybody in that discussion uh because

958
00:34:41,829 --> 00:34:40,560
you you've really um

959
00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:41,839
you know like i i talked at the

960
00:34:44,869 --> 00:34:43,040
beginning you know i said you know

961
00:34:48,069 --> 00:34:44,879
you're a brother in aviation in the air

962
00:34:49,589 --> 00:34:48,079
force and in an open-minded thought and

963
00:34:52,310 --> 00:34:49,599
you really

964
00:34:55,030 --> 00:34:52,320
are not like just looking at this from a

965
00:34:57,030 --> 00:34:55,040
military guy perspective and i think

966
00:34:58,470 --> 00:34:57,040
everybody out there if you're thinking

967
00:35:00,390 --> 00:34:58,480
about having chris on your show should

968
00:35:02,790 --> 00:35:00,400
know that that you're thinking about the

969
00:35:05,109 --> 00:35:02,800
universe and analyzing it and and

970
00:35:06,870 --> 00:35:05,119
reading things like you read alexis book

971
00:35:08,790 --> 00:35:06,880
from many different perspectives to try

972
00:35:10,310 --> 00:35:08,800
to get a handle on this is there

973
00:35:11,190 --> 00:35:10,320
something that

974
00:35:13,510 --> 00:35:11,200
you

975
00:35:14,470 --> 00:35:13,520
that after each one of these shows that

976
00:35:16,069 --> 00:35:14,480
you're on

977
00:35:18,230 --> 00:35:16,079
you see something that people are

978
00:35:20,630 --> 00:35:18,240
missing have you seen something that's

979
00:35:23,750 --> 00:35:20,640
been missed that people aren't talking

980
00:35:31,190 --> 00:35:26,470
relative to the phenomenon the origin if

981
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,710
i don't i don't know i mean there's

982
00:35:40,069 --> 00:35:37,190
there's so many wild theories

983
00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:42,069
i think the truth is probably gonna be

984
00:35:46,950 --> 00:35:44,640
just as wild

985
00:35:47,210 --> 00:35:46,960
so which wild story are you going to go

986
00:35:50,310 --> 00:35:47,220
with

987
00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:50,320
[Laughter]

988
00:35:53,910 --> 00:35:52,320
[Music]

989
00:35:56,870 --> 00:35:53,920
well some of them aren't though like the

990
00:35:59,430 --> 00:35:56,880
fact of of one penetrating

991
00:36:01,750 --> 00:35:59,440
our atmosphere coming from outside of

992
00:36:04,150 --> 00:36:01,760
our orbit coming in is something that

993
00:36:06,950 --> 00:36:04,160
people have been thinking about for 70

994
00:36:09,190 --> 00:36:06,960
years but now when you talk about wow

995
00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:09,200
there could be a base under water there

996
00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:11,280
could be a dimension where they just

997
00:36:15,829 --> 00:36:13,200
sort of appear

998
00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:15,839
um through it through a hole um i've

999
00:36:19,670 --> 00:36:17,760
recently heard about a guy that was

1000
00:36:22,310 --> 00:36:19,680
talking about that that it looked like a

1001
00:36:24,470 --> 00:36:22,320
slice in the sky opened up and it and it

1002
00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:24,480
popped through there or something so

1003
00:36:27,829 --> 00:36:25,359
um

1004
00:36:30,069 --> 00:36:27,839
is there one of those that that sort of

1005
00:36:33,030 --> 00:36:30,079
makes you go hmm

1006
00:36:34,310 --> 00:36:33,040
does dna really is something that you

1007
00:36:39,670 --> 00:36:34,320
think about

1008
00:36:44,069 --> 00:36:42,069
yeah i mean

1009
00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:44,079
yeah i think about all that stuff

1010
00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:45,040
it was

1011
00:36:48,310 --> 00:36:46,720
i think about a lot of stuff

1012
00:36:50,069 --> 00:36:48,320
uh

1013
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:50,079
yeah and i guess and nathan got me

1014
00:36:55,030 --> 00:36:52,720
started on that uh with uh

1015
00:36:57,349 --> 00:36:55,040
sorry about that yeah

1016
00:37:00,950 --> 00:36:57,359
analytic idealism

1017
00:37:04,069 --> 00:37:02,790
yeah and then you hear just crazy story

1018
00:37:05,670 --> 00:37:04,079
yeah there's so many stories about

1019
00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:05,680
shared consciousness

1020
00:37:10,550 --> 00:37:08,320
i've heard that several times lately um

1021
00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:10,560
it's usually like someone is under some

1022
00:37:15,990 --> 00:37:12,960
it was lsd with the last two people that

1023
00:37:17,910 --> 00:37:16,000
told me in in confidence

1024
00:37:21,270 --> 00:37:17,920
that they had shared knowledge conscious

1025
00:37:23,829 --> 00:37:21,280
consciousness with the person with them

1026
00:37:25,349 --> 00:37:23,839
and one of them had a time loop

1027
00:37:27,510 --> 00:37:25,359
they said it was a three-minute time

1028
00:37:29,190 --> 00:37:27,520
loop that they were both in

1029
00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:29,200
and they did it like

1030
00:37:32,390 --> 00:37:30,640
i don't know how many thousands of times

1031
00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:32,400
they said wow

1032
00:37:37,349 --> 00:37:34,400
we've talked about that on other shows

1033
00:37:39,670 --> 00:37:37,359
that's the cloud between max and sophia

1034
00:37:42,310 --> 00:37:39,680
the the david hansen robots so it's

1035
00:37:43,990 --> 00:37:42,320
instantaneous if they're both turned on

1036
00:37:46,870 --> 00:37:44,000
and they're both connected to the cloud

1037
00:37:49,109 --> 00:37:46,880
when sophia is is at a symposium

1038
00:37:51,190 --> 00:37:49,119
interacting with a human and they tell

1039
00:37:52,870 --> 00:37:51,200
her something if max is turned on he

1040
00:37:54,790 --> 00:37:52,880
already knows it or as soon as he's

1041
00:37:57,349 --> 00:37:54,800
turned on he downloads it from their

1042
00:38:00,950 --> 00:37:58,710
it's a shared

1043
00:38:02,630 --> 00:38:00,960
shared cloud memory yes that's david

1044
00:38:05,030 --> 00:38:02,640
hanson's thing man

1045
00:38:07,430 --> 00:38:05,040
it's so freaky if you ever see like the

1046
00:38:09,829 --> 00:38:07,440
60 minutes piece or the youtube piece

1047
00:38:11,990 --> 00:38:09,839
about david hansen who uh hanson

1048
00:38:14,390 --> 00:38:12,000
robotics has moved to hong kong and he

1049
00:38:16,870 --> 00:38:14,400
has like a little humanoid that looks

1050
00:38:18,470 --> 00:38:16,880
like a child playing a piano in his

1051
00:38:20,230 --> 00:38:18,480
apartment in hong kong

1052
00:38:23,510 --> 00:38:20,240
and he's like oh this is our daughter

1053
00:38:25,349 --> 00:38:23,520
and it'll totally freak you out

1054
00:38:28,230 --> 00:38:25,359
totally i'll take you out yeah

1055
00:38:29,910 --> 00:38:28,240
yeah it it's really really weird man so

1056
00:38:30,790 --> 00:38:29,920
anyway i didn't mean to shut down the

1057
00:38:31,670 --> 00:38:30,800
panel

1058
00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:31,680
no

1059
00:38:34,870 --> 00:38:33,520
well i mean you're making me i want to

1060
00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:34,880
go a couple different directions here so

1061
00:38:37,910 --> 00:38:36,240
chris i'm going to i'm going to ask two

1062
00:38:39,589 --> 00:38:37,920
questions but the first one is a lot

1063
00:38:40,470 --> 00:38:39,599
shorter so

1064
00:38:42,230 --> 00:38:40,480
um

1065
00:38:44,230 --> 00:38:42,240
you've spent a lot of time looking at

1066
00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:44,240
the three videos and talking about them

1067
00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:46,000
you're probably tired of that but a

1068
00:38:49,030 --> 00:38:47,760
question that i had for you and dj you

1069
00:38:51,430 --> 00:38:49,040
might want to weigh in on this as well

1070
00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:51,440
but my understanding with aviators is

1071
00:38:55,109 --> 00:38:53,280
that um when you're in

1072
00:38:56,550 --> 00:38:55,119
in a very operation

1073
00:38:57,750 --> 00:38:56,560
there's an economy of language right

1074
00:38:59,990 --> 00:38:57,760
there's kind of a

1075
00:39:01,190 --> 00:39:00,000
similar lexicon that you kind of learn

1076
00:39:02,550 --> 00:39:01,200
and adopt because when you're

1077
00:39:05,750 --> 00:39:02,560
communicating with each other it needs

1078
00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:05,760
to be concise it needs to be accurate uh

1079
00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:07,440
it doesn't need to be very fluffy you

1080
00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:08,400
know you need to kind of very

1081
00:39:11,990 --> 00:39:10,160
communicate quickly right clear concise

1082
00:39:13,510 --> 00:39:12,000
correct exactly thank you those are the

1083
00:39:14,790 --> 00:39:13,520
words

1084
00:39:17,829 --> 00:39:14,800
three things that i'm not particularly

1085
00:39:19,270 --> 00:39:17,839
known for but with the gimbal video

1086
00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:19,280
what i wanted to ask specifically about

1087
00:39:22,710 --> 00:39:20,160
that

1088
00:39:25,349 --> 00:39:22,720
when the when the person says it's

1089
00:39:27,190 --> 00:39:25,359
rotating okay

1090
00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:27,200
is that a word that would be used to

1091
00:39:31,990 --> 00:39:29,440
describe the behavior that is on that

1092
00:39:34,710 --> 00:39:32,000
video because when i look at that

1093
00:39:36,630 --> 00:39:34,720
to me it looks like a bank not a not a

1094
00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:36,640
rotation

1095
00:39:40,630 --> 00:39:38,640
and so i didn't know if that you know

1096
00:39:42,390 --> 00:39:40,640
maybe it's just the lexicon they use

1097
00:39:44,950 --> 00:39:42,400
they use that word to describe that kind

1098
00:39:47,589 --> 00:39:44,960
of angular shift or whatever but to me

1099
00:39:48,790 --> 00:39:47,599
it looks like a bank not a spinning

1100
00:39:50,710 --> 00:39:48,800
which is what i think of when i think of

1101
00:39:52,630 --> 00:39:50,720
root rotation so could we when they're

1102
00:39:54,630 --> 00:39:52,640
saying it's rotating could it mean some

1103
00:39:56,870 --> 00:39:54,640
other behavior that is not observed in

1104
00:39:59,510 --> 00:39:56,880
the video

1105
00:40:01,349 --> 00:39:59,520
uh no i think that's a common term for

1106
00:40:03,270 --> 00:40:01,359
rotation

1107
00:40:05,589 --> 00:40:03,280
there's a translational line of sight

1108
00:40:07,670 --> 00:40:05,599
and there's rotational line of sight

1109
00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:07,680
so we talk about in those terms you know

1110
00:40:10,950 --> 00:40:09,280
trend this is translational line of

1111
00:40:13,030 --> 00:40:10,960
sight and then this is ro you know or

1112
00:40:15,349 --> 00:40:13,040
rotational

1113
00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:15,359
uh yeah i guess

1114
00:40:20,870 --> 00:40:17,040
rotation seems like a common term that

1115
00:40:24,230 --> 00:40:22,630
sorry and that i just always wondered

1116
00:40:27,750 --> 00:40:24,240
about that because you know sort of in

1117
00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:27,760
the lore of ufos rotation can be

1118
00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:29,920
spinning as well not just you know sort

1119
00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:31,920
of banking but

1120
00:40:35,190 --> 00:40:33,280
you've cleared that up for me so i

1121
00:40:37,349 --> 00:40:35,200
appreciate that yeah dj well one thing

1122
00:40:39,030 --> 00:40:37,359
if you're looking at a 2d representation

1123
00:40:40,950 --> 00:40:39,040
of it and he

1124
00:40:42,950 --> 00:40:40,960
is looking at it in a dynamic

1125
00:40:45,510 --> 00:40:42,960
environment in a 3d

1126
00:40:47,750 --> 00:40:45,520
environment and so what he's seeing is

1127
00:40:51,030 --> 00:40:47,760
first of all it's not doesn't have wings

1128
00:40:53,190 --> 00:40:51,040
so but something that's wings that that

1129
00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:53,200
you're in a you're at a six o'clock

1130
00:40:57,510 --> 00:40:55,680
aspect and in banks you're like oh he's

1131
00:40:59,990 --> 00:40:57,520
in the left bank

1132
00:41:02,390 --> 00:41:00,000
but well it's a strange so i guess let

1133
00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:02,400
me be clear that um

1134
00:41:07,910 --> 00:41:04,640
it's clear to me what he's saying but he

1135
00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:07,920
is saying it's rotating is a weird word

1136
00:41:11,430 --> 00:41:10,160
um because uh

1137
00:41:14,230 --> 00:41:11,440
what he's saying to me is that it's

1138
00:41:16,550 --> 00:41:14,240
rotating like this or like this

1139
00:41:18,790 --> 00:41:16,560
whereas he would say it's turning it's

1140
00:41:21,990 --> 00:41:18,800
banking it's climbing or descending

1141
00:41:24,230 --> 00:41:22,000
uh if it was a common

1142
00:41:25,589 --> 00:41:24,240
term so it's a common term that we use

1143
00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:25,599
to describe

1144
00:41:28,870 --> 00:41:26,720
um

1145
00:41:30,390 --> 00:41:28,880
motion right so i understand what he's

1146
00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:30,400
saying to me that it's either it's

1147
00:41:36,230 --> 00:41:33,280
rotating in some some axis right

1148
00:41:38,150 --> 00:41:36,240
um but using it in in that specific case

1149
00:41:39,990 --> 00:41:38,160
is is weird that's not he's so he's

1150
00:41:41,829 --> 00:41:40,000
saying to me it's weird and it's doing

1151
00:41:42,870 --> 00:41:41,839
something i can't describe so i'm saying

1152
00:41:45,109 --> 00:41:42,880
rotating

1153
00:41:47,349 --> 00:41:45,119
so you think it it would it normally

1154
00:41:49,109 --> 00:41:47,359
include an additional qualifier in other

1155
00:41:51,430 --> 00:41:49,119
words like it's rotating left it's

1156
00:41:53,430 --> 00:41:51,440
rotating right it's

1157
00:41:55,270 --> 00:41:53,440
y axis i mean it's um

1158
00:41:57,430 --> 00:41:55,280
i understand what he's saying

1159
00:42:00,390 --> 00:41:57,440
um and he's saying it's it's it's moving

1160
00:42:02,870 --> 00:42:00,400
in a he's using the word rotate which is

1161
00:42:04,309 --> 00:42:02,880
weird to me in that context

1162
00:42:06,630 --> 00:42:04,319
because i understand what he's saying by

1163
00:42:09,030 --> 00:42:06,640
rotate meaning is it's rotating uh we

1164
00:42:12,150 --> 00:42:09,040
use that that's a normal term

1165
00:42:15,510 --> 00:42:12,160
uh rotating about your axis or rotating

1166
00:42:18,230 --> 00:42:15,520
vertically or you know um

1167
00:42:20,230 --> 00:42:18,240
uh yeah so then it's a normal term but

1168
00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:20,240
using it in that instance is weird to me

1169
00:42:24,470 --> 00:42:22,560
if that makes sense sure yeah because

1170
00:42:26,390 --> 00:42:24,480
there's no wing form that's what makes

1171
00:42:28,790 --> 00:42:26,400
that's i think why he used rotating

1172
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:28,800
because if he saw a wing form

1173
00:42:34,230 --> 00:42:31,680
and and he at from a certain aspect he'd

1174
00:42:36,069 --> 00:42:34,240
say it's in a bank but because he's not

1175
00:42:38,470 --> 00:42:36,079
seeing a wing form

1176
00:42:41,589 --> 00:42:38,480
but he is seeing that there's it's a

1177
00:42:43,430 --> 00:42:41,599
flat looks like a flat disc shape or

1178
00:42:46,630 --> 00:42:43,440
something like that i think that's why

1179
00:42:48,550 --> 00:42:46,640
he used the word rotation because um we

1180
00:42:51,910 --> 00:42:48,560
couldn't do that if we had something

1181
00:42:54,069 --> 00:42:51,920
like uh with propellers on on it like

1182
00:42:56,710 --> 00:42:54,079
like a drone you wouldn't be able to

1183
00:42:58,870 --> 00:42:56,720
make it go in like a 90 degree bank like

1184
00:43:00,630 --> 00:42:58,880
that and we should i mean i want to look

1185
00:43:02,950 --> 00:43:00,640
at it so i went in the series debate

1186
00:43:04,790 --> 00:43:02,960
went into its rotating glare finally

1187
00:43:07,270 --> 00:43:04,800
decided on yeah it's probably

1188
00:43:08,550 --> 00:43:07,280
rotating based on the could be movements

1189
00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:08,560
of the pod at least i can't prove it

1190
00:43:12,790 --> 00:43:11,200
isn't um but again this this is kind of

1191
00:43:14,710 --> 00:43:12,800
the debunking

1192
00:43:16,390 --> 00:43:14,720
which i think we should be debunking

1193
00:43:17,990 --> 00:43:16,400
these things right to to poke for holes

1194
00:43:19,349 --> 00:43:18,000
and make sure we get to the truth

1195
00:43:20,150 --> 00:43:19,359
um

1196
00:43:23,030 --> 00:43:20,160
but

1197
00:43:25,430 --> 00:43:23,040
it should also be noted that um ryan

1198
00:43:27,670 --> 00:43:25,440
graves made this whole additional

1199
00:43:30,069 --> 00:43:27,680
presentation on it saying that there was

1200
00:43:31,430 --> 00:43:30,079
five there was three other pilots there

1201
00:43:32,710 --> 00:43:31,440
they all saw it he checked their

1202
00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:32,720
formations

1203
00:43:35,750 --> 00:43:34,000
um

1204
00:43:37,750 --> 00:43:35,760
basically the gimbal object stopped and

1205
00:43:39,430 --> 00:43:37,760
then reverse course

1206
00:43:41,349 --> 00:43:39,440
and they found these five other objects

1207
00:43:42,950 --> 00:43:41,359
flying in a v formation

1208
00:43:44,710 --> 00:43:42,960
you know it's kind of like we don't talk

1209
00:43:46,870 --> 00:43:44,720
about that

1210
00:43:49,030 --> 00:43:46,880
but that's actually pretty

1211
00:43:51,190 --> 00:43:49,040
pretty good you know like it explains

1212
00:43:53,190 --> 00:43:51,200
everything right and now we're arguing

1213
00:43:54,950 --> 00:43:53,200
about does it rotate or does it spin

1214
00:43:56,309 --> 00:43:54,960
it's like well what about the four guys

1215
00:43:57,829 --> 00:43:56,319
that saw it flying and stopping in

1216
00:43:58,710 --> 00:43:57,839
midair and reversing direction you know

1217
00:43:59,990 --> 00:43:58,720
it's uh

1218
00:44:02,230 --> 00:44:00,000
completely i think it's we're kind of

1219
00:44:03,510 --> 00:44:02,240
like getting distracted on this

1220
00:44:07,750 --> 00:44:03,520
that's the idea

1221
00:44:09,430 --> 00:44:07,760
i would say look at ryan graves when he

1222
00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:09,440
when he made this whole presentation on

1223
00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:11,040
it which he must have gotten approval

1224
00:44:14,790 --> 00:44:12,960
from somebody you know um

1225
00:44:16,069 --> 00:44:14,800
he had to have been approved to release

1226
00:44:17,190 --> 00:44:16,079
that information

1227
00:44:19,030 --> 00:44:17,200
and it's pretty good it goes through

1228
00:44:20,790 --> 00:44:19,040
exactly what they saw they saw it's not

1229
00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:20,800
just this one instance that he recorded

1230
00:44:23,349 --> 00:44:22,480
they recorded the video of

1231
00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:23,359
um

1232
00:44:26,710 --> 00:44:24,640
so yeah i think

1233
00:44:28,710 --> 00:44:26,720
yeah that's it

1234
00:44:30,870 --> 00:44:28,720
you know great points let's look at the

1235
00:44:33,349 --> 00:44:30,880
big picture i guess yeah no and i agree

1236
00:44:36,470 --> 00:44:33,359
but it does sort of speak though to the

1237
00:44:38,870 --> 00:44:36,480
the things that we as a society look at

1238
00:44:39,750 --> 00:44:38,880
and say this is more trustworthy than

1239
00:44:42,870 --> 00:44:39,760
this

1240
00:44:43,670 --> 00:44:42,880
so in the past i think we could say

1241
00:44:46,069 --> 00:44:43,680
the

1242
00:44:47,750 --> 00:44:46,079
four people who are experts at a thing

1243
00:44:49,349 --> 00:44:47,760
saying it's doing a certain thing we

1244
00:44:51,829 --> 00:44:49,359
would put greater weight in that

1245
00:44:53,990 --> 00:44:51,839
testimony than a video

1246
00:44:55,589 --> 00:44:54,000
right but we we've kind of in some ways

1247
00:44:57,670 --> 00:44:55,599
transitioned to a time where it's like

1248
00:44:59,750 --> 00:44:57,680
no no like i don't like it's the death

1249
00:45:01,990 --> 00:44:59,760
of expertise right i i don't care about

1250
00:45:04,470 --> 00:45:02,000
the experts uh it's just what i'm

1251
00:45:06,390 --> 00:45:04,480
looking at with my eyeballs and i'm just

1252
00:45:07,750 --> 00:45:06,400
feeling like that's not as you know i

1253
00:45:10,309 --> 00:45:07,760
don't care what they said it's what i'm

1254
00:45:13,430 --> 00:45:10,319
looking at you know yeah

1255
00:45:17,030 --> 00:45:13,440
it's what a video game creator can prove

1256
00:45:19,270 --> 00:45:17,040
about a military system right right but

1257
00:45:22,150 --> 00:45:19,280
that's ultimately should be about

1258
00:45:24,470 --> 00:45:22,160
open source discussion um but i think we

1259
00:45:25,430 --> 00:45:24,480
could be discussing

1260
00:45:27,109 --> 00:45:25,440
uh

1261
00:45:28,470 --> 00:45:27,119
that other section you know when that

1262
00:45:30,470 --> 00:45:28,480
when the gimbal object is flying in

1263
00:45:32,309 --> 00:45:30,480
formation with these with these other

1264
00:45:34,069 --> 00:45:32,319
i think it was six objects don't know

1265
00:45:36,309 --> 00:45:34,079
five objects in a v formation you know

1266
00:45:37,910 --> 00:45:36,319
you think about the v formation

1267
00:45:40,230 --> 00:45:37,920
uh i talk to people all the time talking

1268
00:45:41,990 --> 00:45:40,240
about orbs in a v formation and you talk

1269
00:45:44,069 --> 00:45:42,000
and you look at phoenix lights

1270
00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:44,079
uh in a v formation

1271
00:45:49,190 --> 00:45:46,720
you know so i'd say just um

1272
00:45:50,710 --> 00:45:49,200
you know don't i'm not engaging uh you

1273
00:45:52,790 --> 00:45:50,720
know i'm listening to mick west and the

1274
00:45:53,910 --> 00:45:52,800
debunkers for their you know saline

1275
00:45:55,910 --> 00:45:53,920
points

1276
00:45:58,150 --> 00:45:55,920
but we're just moving on you go past you

1277
00:46:01,910 --> 00:45:58,160
go past you know and um that's how we go

1278
00:46:04,069 --> 00:46:01,920
mainstream kevin is is uh

1279
00:46:05,190 --> 00:46:04,079
go past them don't get debunked down in

1280
00:46:06,790 --> 00:46:05,200
this like

1281
00:46:08,390 --> 00:46:06,800
we're just sitting in the you know the

1282
00:46:11,190 --> 00:46:08,400
doldrums you know we want to set we want

1283
00:46:13,430 --> 00:46:11,200
to find evidence like let's get it

1284
00:46:15,109 --> 00:46:13,440
uh and if we're all adhering to the

1285
00:46:16,790 --> 00:46:15,119
mission like they can't stop they can't

1286
00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:16,800
stop everybody you know yeah i think

1287
00:46:21,430 --> 00:46:19,760
that's how you go mainstream is

1288
00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:21,440
coming well i'm going to save my second

1289
00:46:24,550 --> 00:46:23,040
question to later but it's going to be

1290
00:46:26,069 --> 00:46:24,560
about the consciousness stuff i want to

1291
00:46:28,790 --> 00:46:26,079
get into that if we can but kevin i want

1292
00:46:30,069 --> 00:46:28,800
you to go next time

1293
00:46:31,349 --> 00:46:30,079
all right

1294
00:46:32,790 --> 00:46:31,359
well

1295
00:46:34,870 --> 00:46:32,800
you know i think it's interesting what

1296
00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:34,880
what um the public

1297
00:46:38,550 --> 00:46:37,200
is now getting like we're getting a lot

1298
00:46:40,069 --> 00:46:38,560
of stuff on the news you know you're

1299
00:46:42,550 --> 00:46:40,079
saying all this stuff about

1300
00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:42,560
experiencers reporting physiological

1301
00:46:46,790 --> 00:46:44,560
effects you know all that stuff

1302
00:46:49,030 --> 00:46:46,800
um the six observable the stuff that was

1303
00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:49,040
in the ndaa you know the physiological

1304
00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:50,720
effects and then you have the havana

1305
00:46:54,870 --> 00:46:52,400
syndrome stuff coming out

1306
00:46:56,630 --> 00:46:54,880
and i've read stuff from um

1307
00:46:58,950 --> 00:46:56,640
from frank actually frank milburn about

1308
00:47:00,870 --> 00:46:58,960
the weaponized microwave

1309
00:47:02,230 --> 00:47:00,880
emitters so with that being said with

1310
00:47:04,470 --> 00:47:02,240
the weaponized you know i need your help

1311
00:47:06,309 --> 00:47:04,480
with this as a chemist

1312
00:47:09,109 --> 00:47:06,319
so would wearing a suit lined with

1313
00:47:11,910 --> 00:47:09,119
popcorn seeds be a visible early warning

1314
00:47:13,910 --> 00:47:11,920
system for uh you know for the microwave

1315
00:47:16,710 --> 00:47:13,920
weapons you know like hey my suit is

1316
00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:16,720
popping um it's time to take cover bro

1317
00:47:21,109 --> 00:47:19,440
hey hey it's popping you know maybe we

1318
00:47:23,430 --> 00:47:21,119
should throw a blanket over that guy and

1319
00:47:24,630 --> 00:47:23,440
get away or you know get some butter get

1320
00:47:25,829 --> 00:47:24,640
the butter yeah you know at least you

1321
00:47:27,750 --> 00:47:25,839
have a snack while you wait for an

1322
00:47:29,750 --> 00:47:27,760
ambulance you know i think it's it's a

1323
00:47:31,750 --> 00:47:29,760
good idea this is more of a reason to

1324
00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:31,760
keep one of those lead line blankets

1325
00:47:35,670 --> 00:47:33,760
that they have in the x-ray labs in your

1326
00:47:37,190 --> 00:47:35,680
car so you should i think we should all

1327
00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:37,200
have one of those that's a good idea

1328
00:47:41,510 --> 00:47:38,400
chris pop

1329
00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:41,520
suit a suit filled with unpopped popcorn

1330
00:47:45,829 --> 00:47:43,920
do you think that could be beneficial

1331
00:47:47,589 --> 00:47:45,839
for those folks in cuba that are dealing

1332
00:47:49,430 --> 00:47:47,599
with these sonic attacks and so forth

1333
00:47:52,150 --> 00:47:49,440
could be

1334
00:47:54,630 --> 00:47:52,160
yeah it seems like great idea all right

1335
00:47:56,230 --> 00:47:54,640
thanks all right

1336
00:47:57,349 --> 00:47:56,240
nice

1337
00:47:59,430 --> 00:47:57,359
yeah but i mean

1338
00:48:01,910 --> 00:47:59,440
but i will point out one thing right if

1339
00:48:03,349 --> 00:48:01,920
it's hot enough to to pop the popcorn

1340
00:48:05,589 --> 00:48:03,359
right

1341
00:48:08,069 --> 00:48:05,599
i'm pretty sure you'll be burning

1342
00:48:10,069 --> 00:48:08,079
well before that you'll feel the heat oh

1343
00:48:12,710 --> 00:48:10,079
chris do you know what what frequency

1344
00:48:14,630 --> 00:48:12,720
popcorn pops huh

1345
00:48:15,750 --> 00:48:14,640
i don't think so go ahead dab

1346
00:48:17,510 --> 00:48:15,760
microwave

1347
00:48:20,470 --> 00:48:17,520
okay gotta be at temperature first of

1348
00:48:22,470 --> 00:48:20,480
all i love popcorn um second of all i

1349
00:48:24,790 --> 00:48:22,480
just wanted to comment that i've watched

1350
00:48:27,430 --> 00:48:24,800
your video about the range fowler

1351
00:48:29,670 --> 00:48:27,440
debriefs that came out and um i was

1352
00:48:32,470 --> 00:48:29,680
really enjoying the fact that a there

1353
00:48:40,549 --> 00:48:32,480
was another term for uav is being used

1354
00:48:45,109 --> 00:48:43,270
okay yeah yeah so i was asking i was

1355
00:48:48,069 --> 00:48:45,119
going to ask if you had taken a look at

1356
00:48:50,150 --> 00:48:48,079
the nsas and were considering to do the

1357
00:48:52,309 --> 00:48:50,160
same thing for their documents which are

1358
00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:52,319
primarily radar

1359
00:48:56,570 --> 00:48:55,200
um reads

1360
00:48:58,870 --> 00:48:56,580
i didn't know about them um

1361
00:49:01,670 --> 00:48:58,880
[Music]

1362
00:49:04,069 --> 00:49:01,680
yeah that sounds like a good thing to do

1363
00:49:06,470 --> 00:49:04,079
yeah because i for for anyone who hasn't

1364
00:49:08,870 --> 00:49:06,480
looked they do describe some things

1365
00:49:12,150 --> 00:49:08,880
related to objects but a lot of it is

1366
00:49:15,190 --> 00:49:12,160
just about altitude and radar

1367
00:49:17,829 --> 00:49:15,200
cool so this is the what is it the nsa's

1368
00:49:20,390 --> 00:49:17,839
yes the nsa ufo documents

1369
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:20,400
ufo documents okay i'll try and get them

1370
00:49:23,349 --> 00:49:21,760
um

1371
00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:23,359
yeah that's what on the discord if

1372
00:49:27,829 --> 00:49:24,880
people share them on there i get stuff

1373
00:49:33,589 --> 00:49:31,510
it's and it's 355 degrees fahrenheit

1374
00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:33,599
oh for popcorn yeah

1375
00:49:37,190 --> 00:49:35,760
oh man

1376
00:49:38,950 --> 00:49:37,200
so yeah that would be that would be a

1377
00:49:40,549 --> 00:49:38,960
problem uncomfortable yeah yeah that

1378
00:49:42,870 --> 00:49:40,559
could be a problem kev it's a good

1379
00:49:45,270 --> 00:49:42,880
thought but back to the drawing board

1380
00:49:46,549 --> 00:49:45,280
yeah it's heat it's not oh check it out

1381
00:49:50,710 --> 00:49:46,559
okay

1382
00:49:50,720 --> 00:49:55,670
i i can send you a link

1383
00:49:58,950 --> 00:49:58,150
got a link for you i do like it because

1384
00:50:00,549 --> 00:49:58,960
um

1385
00:50:02,710 --> 00:50:00,559
well the nsa i wonder that'd be

1386
00:50:04,150 --> 00:50:02,720
interesting to see yeah

1387
00:50:06,309 --> 00:50:04,160
i was thinking about the ballistic

1388
00:50:08,470 --> 00:50:06,319
missile defense system

1389
00:50:10,150 --> 00:50:08,480
or the anti-ballistic missile defense

1390
00:50:13,270 --> 00:50:10,160
system uh basically that's what they

1391
00:50:16,069 --> 00:50:13,280
were picking up the tic tacs with

1392
00:50:18,549 --> 00:50:16,079
so before the nimitz you know before the

1393
00:50:20,470 --> 00:50:18,559
nimitz engagement they were seeing these

1394
00:50:22,549 --> 00:50:20,480
coming from space these contacts 15 to

1395
00:50:24,390 --> 00:50:22,559
20 contacts where'd you get that from

1396
00:50:27,750 --> 00:50:24,400
because i'm interested in that yeah

1397
00:50:29,109 --> 00:50:27,760
that's kevin day uh he says it and his

1398
00:50:31,349 --> 00:50:29,119
it's in uh

1399
00:50:34,230 --> 00:50:31,359
um canoe kevin knuts

1400
00:50:35,430 --> 00:50:34,240
right up on it he gives the data on it

1401
00:50:37,270 --> 00:50:35,440
yeah that's what i'm saying you know we

1402
00:50:39,349 --> 00:50:37,280
focus we keep focusing on does it

1403
00:50:42,390 --> 00:50:39,359
accelerate at an accelerated speed you

1404
00:50:44,309 --> 00:50:42,400
know uh in this video um well did it

1405
00:50:45,670 --> 00:50:44,319
come down from space in groups of 15 to

1406
00:50:46,470 --> 00:50:45,680
20. you know that's more important i

1407
00:50:47,829 --> 00:50:46,480
think

1408
00:50:49,829 --> 00:50:47,839
i would say so

1409
00:50:51,430 --> 00:50:49,839
so 15 to 20 yeah basically they were

1410
00:50:52,549 --> 00:50:51,440
picking them up from the ballistic

1411
00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:52,559
missile defense system or

1412
00:50:54,950 --> 00:50:54,000
anti-anti-ballistic missile defense

1413
00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:54,960
system

1414
00:50:57,990 --> 00:50:56,400
uh and you know what are these things

1415
00:51:00,309 --> 00:50:58,000
and then they would go to

1416
00:51:03,270 --> 00:51:00,319
and then when they get below 80 000 feet

1417
00:51:04,630 --> 00:51:03,280
then the spy 1 radar would see it

1418
00:51:07,349 --> 00:51:04,640
and they were picking

1419
00:51:09,270 --> 00:51:07,359
again 15 20 contacts going to 28 000

1420
00:51:11,829 --> 00:51:09,280
feet and just like doing this weird like

1421
00:51:13,510 --> 00:51:11,839
along the along a latitude line you're

1422
00:51:15,589 --> 00:51:13,520
asking about uh deb you were asking

1423
00:51:17,270 --> 00:51:15,599
about the crop circles and energy

1424
00:51:18,470 --> 00:51:17,280
um yeah it's kind of interesting to me

1425
00:51:21,349 --> 00:51:18,480
that the

1426
00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:21,359
tic tacs are at 28 000 feet and then

1427
00:51:25,270 --> 00:51:24,160
they just flow in the slow track south

1428
00:51:27,670 --> 00:51:25,280
you know almost like they're like

1429
00:51:29,430 --> 00:51:27,680
charging up or something you know or

1430
00:51:31,510 --> 00:51:29,440
it just seems weird to me in relation to

1431
00:51:32,710 --> 00:51:31,520
the earth and then they go down to like

1432
00:51:34,630 --> 00:51:32,720
um

1433
00:51:35,910 --> 00:51:34,640
the sea level right above 50 feet and

1434
00:51:37,430 --> 00:51:35,920
then they go up and they go down maybe

1435
00:51:38,870 --> 00:51:37,440
they go down another level or something

1436
00:51:41,349 --> 00:51:38,880
and you know

1437
00:51:43,349 --> 00:51:41,359
yeah it's kind of weird uh levels you

1438
00:51:44,630 --> 00:51:43,359
know what's up with the level

1439
00:51:46,069 --> 00:51:44,640
uh

1440
00:51:48,470 --> 00:51:46,079
yeah it's kind of interesting to me

1441
00:51:49,990 --> 00:51:48,480
what's up with the burbling water as as

1442
00:51:52,150 --> 00:51:50,000
they were floating above the water what

1443
00:51:54,790 --> 00:51:52,160
was going on here i mean exactly we

1444
00:51:56,309 --> 00:51:54,800
can't we don't know

1445
00:51:57,750 --> 00:51:56,319
yeah it'd be interesting to think about

1446
00:52:00,710 --> 00:51:57,760
those things you know rather than kind

1447
00:52:01,829 --> 00:52:00,720
of hone in all these these little minute

1448
00:52:03,510 --> 00:52:01,839
uh

1449
00:52:06,069 --> 00:52:03,520
did it or did not

1450
00:52:07,910 --> 00:52:06,079
oh i yeah i mean i've i've i'm we're way

1451
00:52:09,190 --> 00:52:07,920
past it's like lou says when you know

1452
00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:09,200
whether or not the phenomenon exists

1453
00:52:13,190 --> 00:52:11,200
we're way past that those guys are

1454
00:52:14,150 --> 00:52:13,200
talking about is it real is it not did

1455
00:52:16,870 --> 00:52:14,160
it

1456
00:52:19,589 --> 00:52:16,880
i'm not even i don't have you know time

1457
00:52:21,030 --> 00:52:19,599
to or energy to put into that uh to what

1458
00:52:23,750 --> 00:52:21,040
they say about that i'm more interested

1459
00:52:25,829 --> 00:52:23,760
in what is it doing uh what how is it

1460
00:52:28,549 --> 00:52:25,839
interacting with the water is that an

1461
00:52:31,910 --> 00:52:28,559
extraction of energy is that an exchange

1462
00:52:33,430 --> 00:52:31,920
of of of information or data

1463
00:52:37,990 --> 00:52:33,440
or

1464
00:52:40,390 --> 00:52:38,000
vessel that was under the water that

1465
00:52:42,790 --> 00:52:40,400
they control i'm you know

1466
00:52:44,630 --> 00:52:42,800
uh why are they in formation what does

1467
00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:44,640
that mean i mean obviously they're

1468
00:52:49,190 --> 00:52:46,880
surveilling us i would think

1469
00:52:51,829 --> 00:52:49,200
just being there is surveillance but

1470
00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:51,839
what for what data are they gathering

1471
00:52:55,430 --> 00:52:53,440
are they watching

1472
00:52:59,190 --> 00:52:55,440
uh the are they

1473
00:53:01,190 --> 00:52:59,200
looking at the emitters that happen as a

1474
00:53:02,309 --> 00:53:01,200
that's resultant of nuclear power on

1475
00:53:03,990 --> 00:53:02,319
these ships

1476
00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:04,000
you know there's there's certain

1477
00:53:09,349 --> 00:53:06,880
you know uh uh energy and frequencies

1478
00:53:11,109 --> 00:53:09,359
that are created by a nuclear reactor

1479
00:53:12,870 --> 00:53:11,119
and maybe they're they're

1480
00:53:15,430 --> 00:53:12,880
they're receiving

1481
00:53:16,870 --> 00:53:15,440
those uh i don't want to say signals but

1482
00:53:19,589 --> 00:53:16,880
they're receiving those freaks and

1483
00:53:20,870 --> 00:53:19,599
seeing okay yeah they're just doing x

1484
00:53:22,390 --> 00:53:20,880
and not y

1485
00:53:25,990 --> 00:53:22,400
what's up with all the hot spots though

1486
00:53:27,670 --> 00:53:26,000
you know you see like a skinwalker ranch

1487
00:53:28,390 --> 00:53:27,680
you know you got the vernal

1488
00:53:31,349 --> 00:53:28,400
area

1489
00:53:33,030 --> 00:53:31,359
fernan or the uentah basin

1490
00:53:34,309 --> 00:53:33,040
you know you have um

1491
00:53:35,990 --> 00:53:34,319
la

1492
00:53:38,230 --> 00:53:36,000
uh it could be it's just over there by

1493
00:53:39,750 --> 00:53:38,240
the water uh but uh arizona and

1494
00:53:40,829 --> 00:53:39,760
everybody talks about there seems to be

1495
00:53:45,430 --> 00:53:40,839
like these

1496
00:53:49,270 --> 00:53:47,190
you know is it

1497
00:53:51,349 --> 00:53:49,280
to certain areas like drawn into the

1498
00:53:53,670 --> 00:53:51,359
ground you know if you look at why why

1499
00:53:55,670 --> 00:53:53,680
do people build pyramids

1500
00:53:57,910 --> 00:53:55,680
you know now uh lexa is all about

1501
00:54:00,150 --> 00:53:57,920
pyramids man i don't know we're gonna

1502
00:54:02,390 --> 00:54:00,160
maybe have to go to egypt or something

1503
00:54:04,069 --> 00:54:02,400
it's like indian jones dude i was like

1504
00:54:05,670 --> 00:54:04,079
i'm never tired of being a fighter pop

1505
00:54:07,750 --> 00:54:05,680
man it's just too stressful

1506
00:54:09,030 --> 00:54:07,760
spend time with my family

1507
00:54:10,630 --> 00:54:09,040
all right man we need you to go into

1508
00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:10,640
this pyramid

1509
00:54:14,230 --> 00:54:12,640
uh

1510
00:54:16,630 --> 00:54:14,240
i was just studying a little bit about

1511
00:54:18,790 --> 00:54:16,640
that last night about giza and

1512
00:54:21,190 --> 00:54:18,800
and uh the grand pyramid and all that is

1513
00:54:22,950 --> 00:54:21,200
fat it's endlessly fascinating yeah why

1514
00:54:24,790 --> 00:54:22,960
is there all pyramids all around you

1515
00:54:27,270 --> 00:54:24,800
know i mean the mayans weren't in

1516
00:54:28,710 --> 00:54:27,280
contact with the you know

1517
00:54:30,790 --> 00:54:28,720
egyptian i think they're separated by a

1518
00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:30,800
few thousand years but

1519
00:54:35,109 --> 00:54:32,880
yeah so what is with the pyramids what's

1520
00:54:36,950 --> 00:54:35,119
with the local localities that's kind of

1521
00:54:39,430 --> 00:54:36,960
interesting to me as well

1522
00:54:41,109 --> 00:54:39,440
um let's go around the panel with both

1523
00:54:44,549 --> 00:54:41,119
those questions the hot spots and the

1524
00:54:46,870 --> 00:54:44,559
pyramids let's go ahead nathan

1525
00:54:49,030 --> 00:54:46,880
yeah uh

1526
00:54:50,069 --> 00:54:49,040
well there's i mean the earth like the

1527
00:54:52,390 --> 00:54:50,079
magnetic

1528
00:54:54,069 --> 00:54:52,400
the iron rich core or whatever obviously

1529
00:54:56,870 --> 00:54:54,079
there's something going on with the

1530
00:54:58,710 --> 00:54:56,880
earth and it's magnetic uh

1531
00:55:00,309 --> 00:54:58,720
not only internally but the fields that

1532
00:55:01,990 --> 00:55:00,319
it creates around it right there so

1533
00:55:04,470 --> 00:55:02,000
there's some sort of field

1534
00:55:06,150 --> 00:55:04,480
effects that

1535
00:55:07,349 --> 00:55:06,160
you know impact the atmosphere and

1536
00:55:09,510 --> 00:55:07,359
things like that i don't know maybe

1537
00:55:11,589 --> 00:55:09,520
there's some kind of

1538
00:55:14,150 --> 00:55:11,599
ability to harness that or channel that

1539
00:55:16,470 --> 00:55:14,160
or it's attract it's attractive for some

1540
00:55:18,069 --> 00:55:16,480
reason um

1541
00:55:19,589 --> 00:55:18,079
i don't really know i mean that that's

1542
00:55:21,030 --> 00:55:19,599
that's you know to me like that's the

1543
00:55:21,670 --> 00:55:21,040
right we need this funding when we need

1544
00:55:23,829 --> 00:55:21,680
this

1545
00:55:25,990 --> 00:55:23,839
to do the science

1546
00:55:27,829 --> 00:55:26,000
i think the scientific community kind of

1547
00:55:29,829 --> 00:55:27,839
is going to look at that and go what's

1548
00:55:31,589 --> 00:55:29,839
the point of looking at this you know

1549
00:55:33,109 --> 00:55:31,599
why would we spend time

1550
00:55:35,829 --> 00:55:33,119
investigating it but these are the sort

1551
00:55:37,670 --> 00:55:35,839
of like questions that i think would be

1552
00:55:41,190 --> 00:55:37,680
worth

1553
00:55:43,190 --> 00:55:41,200
exploring more um

1554
00:55:44,470 --> 00:55:43,200
so i don't know i mean i don't have an

1555
00:55:46,630 --> 00:55:44,480
answer to that but

1556
00:55:49,589 --> 00:55:46,640
it's there there clearly are

1557
00:55:51,510 --> 00:55:49,599
anomalies within our atmosphere and our

1558
00:55:52,870 --> 00:55:51,520
and within within our core itself like

1559
00:55:53,670 --> 00:55:52,880
they just recently talked about there

1560
00:55:55,990 --> 00:55:53,680
was

1561
00:55:57,910 --> 00:55:56,000
some sort of massive uh

1562
00:55:59,910 --> 00:55:57,920
i forget how they

1563
00:56:02,150 --> 00:55:59,920
quantified it but it's like a it's a

1564
00:56:03,589 --> 00:56:02,160
it's a differentiation in the core of

1565
00:56:07,349 --> 00:56:03,599
the earth

1566
00:56:08,710 --> 00:56:07,359
so small compared to like everything

1567
00:56:10,630 --> 00:56:08,720
that's inside of it i'm not trying to

1568
00:56:11,990 --> 00:56:10,640
get fantastical it's just like true just

1569
00:56:14,150 --> 00:56:12,000
a fact you know there's just a ton of

1570
00:56:16,150 --> 00:56:14,160
there's a lot of mass inside the planet

1571
00:56:18,390 --> 00:56:16,160
you know way more than it is on the

1572
00:56:20,710 --> 00:56:18,400
outside so i i don't know and we just

1573
00:56:22,710 --> 00:56:20,720
did i did a i helped my daughter with

1574
00:56:24,549 --> 00:56:22,720
the seventh grade science experiment

1575
00:56:25,829 --> 00:56:24,559
right where she had to build the the

1576
00:56:27,990 --> 00:56:25,839
earth again

1577
00:56:28,789 --> 00:56:28,000
and it hasn't changed right it's still

1578
00:56:30,549 --> 00:56:28,799
like

1579
00:56:33,030 --> 00:56:30,559
it's just the

1580
00:56:34,789 --> 00:56:33,040
this ball all right it's like the core

1581
00:56:36,549 --> 00:56:34,799
yep and then there's like

1582
00:56:38,789 --> 00:56:36,559
thousands and thousands of miles right

1583
00:56:39,510 --> 00:56:38,799
and then it's like oh this is the mantle

1584
00:56:41,910 --> 00:56:39,520
you know

1585
00:56:44,549 --> 00:56:41,920
uh and then it's like okay the crust

1586
00:56:46,549 --> 00:56:44,559
like it had we haven't even like

1587
00:56:48,309 --> 00:56:46,559
well we can't even drill below a certain

1588
00:56:50,390 --> 00:56:48,319
level you know like it's difficult for

1589
00:56:52,309 --> 00:56:50,400
us everything that we can surmise about

1590
00:56:54,710 --> 00:56:52,319
the interior of our planet is really

1591
00:56:55,910 --> 00:56:54,720
yeah just through like seismic waves and

1592
00:56:57,430 --> 00:56:55,920
you know all these kind of different

1593
00:56:59,829 --> 00:56:57,440
technologies that we

1594
00:57:03,510 --> 00:56:59,839
second hand observe what's going on

1595
00:57:06,069 --> 00:57:03,520
there or we can't first hand observe it

1596
00:57:07,430 --> 00:57:06,079
yeah before i uh i mean obviously the

1597
00:57:09,670 --> 00:57:07,440
government thought it was interesting

1598
00:57:11,829 --> 00:57:09,680
enough to spend multi-million dollars

1599
00:57:13,829 --> 00:57:11,839
uh and give bob bill gallow a contract

1600
00:57:15,190 --> 00:57:13,839
and purchase that or actually they

1601
00:57:18,390 --> 00:57:15,200
purchased the property and then they

1602
00:57:19,670 --> 00:57:18,400
sold it to a big low um so obviously

1603
00:57:21,109 --> 00:57:19,680
there was something there that they

1604
00:57:23,750 --> 00:57:21,119
thought was compelling they sent a

1605
00:57:25,510 --> 00:57:23,760
number of different uh types of experts

1606
00:57:27,750 --> 00:57:25,520
out there uh so there's definitely

1607
00:57:31,589 --> 00:57:27,760
something there nathan uh what's your

1608
00:57:33,510 --> 00:57:31,599
take uh kev on hot spots and um

1609
00:57:36,309 --> 00:57:33,520
and uh what was the other one nathan the

1610
00:57:38,069 --> 00:57:36,319
earth's uh the pyramids yeah the the

1611
00:57:40,230 --> 00:57:38,079
reason the purpose that those

1612
00:57:42,069 --> 00:57:40,240
particularly

1613
00:57:42,950 --> 00:57:42,079
so the purpose of the pyramids i mean

1614
00:57:59,190 --> 00:57:42,960
the

1615
00:58:01,270 --> 00:57:59,200
function

1616
00:58:03,829 --> 00:58:01,280
i don't know what that was

1617
00:58:05,829 --> 00:58:03,839
also beneath the pyramids supposedly

1618
00:58:07,430 --> 00:58:05,839
there are still tunnels

1619
00:58:09,589 --> 00:58:07,440
and supposedly um the tunnels that

1620
00:58:12,150 --> 00:58:09,599
connect to the other pyramids all kinds

1621
00:58:14,950 --> 00:58:12,160
of stuff going on also what um needs to

1622
00:58:17,829 --> 00:58:14,960
be looked at is the construction i think

1623
00:58:19,829 --> 00:58:17,839
that's more important how was it built

1624
00:58:21,510 --> 00:58:19,839
how did they have the technology i mean

1625
00:58:23,390 --> 00:58:21,520
you look at balbic

1626
00:58:26,789 --> 00:58:23,400
you've got

1627
00:58:29,030 --> 00:58:26,799
1500 ton blocks how are those moved

1628
00:58:31,510 --> 00:58:29,040
those are the foundation stones those

1629
00:58:34,069 --> 00:58:31,520
are the things that um really get me as

1630
00:58:37,270 --> 00:58:34,079
far as the function of it i i could say

1631
00:58:39,670 --> 00:58:37,280
i don't know and i can say probably

1632
00:58:41,190 --> 00:58:39,680
our historians don't know either

1633
00:58:42,789 --> 00:58:41,200
well what's your opinion on on the

1634
00:58:45,510 --> 00:58:42,799
pyramids

1635
00:58:46,789 --> 00:58:45,520
or ancient structures

1636
00:58:48,470 --> 00:58:46,799
yeah we're going to get back to chris i

1637
00:58:51,190 --> 00:58:48,480
want to get deb in here because she had

1638
00:58:52,549 --> 00:58:51,200
something uh and i just want to say i

1639
00:58:54,870 --> 00:58:52,559
mean obviously

1640
00:58:56,630 --> 00:58:54,880
uh we spoke about the masonic order a

1641
00:58:59,190 --> 00:58:56,640
couple weeks ago with john you know the

1642
00:59:02,230 --> 00:58:59,200
washington monument has a pyramid on top

1643
00:59:04,710 --> 00:59:02,240
of it it's a significant structure in

1644
00:59:08,150 --> 00:59:04,720
the masonic order our money has a

1645
00:59:09,510 --> 00:59:08,160
pyramid with the eyeball in it as well

1646
00:59:12,150 --> 00:59:09,520
and then so i just want to throw that

1647
00:59:14,069 --> 00:59:12,160
out there just for food for thought debs

1648
00:59:16,630 --> 00:59:14,079
okay so i'm going to propose a different

1649
00:59:18,549 --> 00:59:16,640
idea with pyramids please so i do think

1650
00:59:20,069 --> 00:59:18,559
there was a spiritual connection and

1651
00:59:21,910 --> 00:59:20,079
they were kind of doing a message with

1652
00:59:23,670 --> 00:59:21,920
the different sides like each side might

1653
00:59:24,789 --> 00:59:23,680
have represented something but to me it

1654
00:59:26,230 --> 00:59:24,799
could be

1655
00:59:27,990 --> 00:59:26,240
an antenna

1656
00:59:30,710 --> 00:59:28,000
you know they were literally trying to

1657
00:59:33,109 --> 00:59:30,720
project something into the sky

1658
00:59:35,109 --> 00:59:33,119
um that's the impression that i get from

1659
00:59:37,190 --> 00:59:35,119
pyramids and i've actually been to them

1660
00:59:39,990 --> 00:59:37,200
so that's kind of cool that i can

1661
00:59:40,789 --> 00:59:40,000
comment on them now but um i also wanted

1662
00:59:42,950 --> 00:59:40,799
to

1663
00:59:45,510 --> 00:59:42,960
comment on the hot spots a lot of hot

1664
00:59:46,710 --> 00:59:45,520
spots are actually areas with nuclear

1665
00:59:49,750 --> 00:59:46,720
fallout

1666
00:59:51,750 --> 00:59:49,760
um not not just areas that have magnetic

1667
00:59:54,789 --> 00:59:51,760
connections but like people talk about

1668
00:59:57,670 --> 00:59:54,799
skinwalker that whole area got fallout

1669
01:00:00,069 --> 00:59:57,680
because they were close enough to the

1670
01:00:01,990 --> 01:00:00,079
the triangle of uh

1671
01:00:05,510 --> 01:00:02,000
testing

1672
01:00:07,190 --> 01:00:05,520
oh to like new mexico yep

1673
01:00:08,870 --> 01:00:07,200
that's why i think there's also silver

1674
01:00:09,990 --> 01:00:08,880
radiation on the ranch

1675
01:00:11,510 --> 01:00:10,000
okay

1676
01:00:12,710 --> 01:00:11,520
that's a good one

1677
01:00:14,470 --> 01:00:12,720
oh chris

1678
01:00:17,510 --> 01:00:14,480
your take

1679
01:00:19,380 --> 01:00:17,520
i'm going with debs

1680
01:00:23,030 --> 01:00:19,390
nfps and dlwg

1681
01:00:23,829 --> 01:00:23,040
[Laughter]

1682
01:00:25,430 --> 01:00:23,839
all right

1683
01:00:27,829 --> 01:00:25,440
well i have heard it's interesting yeah

1684
01:00:28,950 --> 01:00:27,839
that they can align amazing with the

1685
01:00:30,789 --> 01:00:28,960
stars

1686
01:00:33,670 --> 01:00:30,799
that was always so cool to me

1687
01:00:35,670 --> 01:00:33,680
yeah that's iris yeah

1688
01:00:37,990 --> 01:00:35,680
that and that seemed to line up with

1689
01:00:39,910 --> 01:00:38,000
like the mayans they had their pyramids

1690
01:00:42,549 --> 01:00:39,920
were somehow lined up pointed at certain

1691
01:00:44,950 --> 01:00:42,559
star systems

1692
01:00:46,789 --> 01:00:44,960
um that seems pretty cool to me

1693
01:00:48,470 --> 01:00:46,799
you know maybe it like aligns every two

1694
01:00:50,230 --> 01:00:48,480
thousand one hundred and sixty eight

1695
01:00:51,910 --> 01:00:50,240
years or something you know and if

1696
01:00:53,430 --> 01:00:51,920
you're in that pyramid like this beam of

1697
01:00:56,069 --> 01:00:53,440
light laser light comes out i don't know

1698
01:00:58,870 --> 01:00:56,079
i mean who knows man well ufos

1699
01:01:01,190 --> 01:00:58,880
chris if if they align the the corners

1700
01:01:03,190 --> 01:01:01,200
of those the pyramid to the cardinal

1701
01:01:05,589 --> 01:01:03,200
directions and yet compasses weren't

1702
01:01:07,990 --> 01:01:05,599
invented yet

1703
01:01:09,270 --> 01:01:08,000
so it's not magnetic north right but

1704
01:01:11,349 --> 01:01:09,280
it's north

1705
01:01:13,670 --> 01:01:11,359
and they're off by

1706
01:01:15,349 --> 01:01:13,680
a couple of degrees i can't remember 1

1707
01:01:17,430 --> 01:01:15,359
16 or something

1708
01:01:22,549 --> 01:01:17,440
yeah

1709
01:01:24,630 --> 01:01:22,559
so that's one of the construction

1710
01:01:26,470 --> 01:01:24,640
methods the magnetics

1711
01:01:28,150 --> 01:01:26,480
yeah they they did it they somehow

1712
01:01:30,470 --> 01:01:28,160
figured out you know north south east

1713
01:01:32,950 --> 01:01:30,480
west and aligned the triangle that way

1714
01:01:35,510 --> 01:01:32,960
yet they did it without uh having the

1715
01:01:37,670 --> 01:01:35,520
benefit of a compass that we know of

1716
01:01:40,069 --> 01:01:37,680
that we know of because

1717
01:01:41,910 --> 01:01:40,079
it would be cool if it was an antenna

1718
01:01:43,829 --> 01:01:41,920
that sounds cool or some sort of

1719
01:01:45,829 --> 01:01:43,839
transmitter

1720
01:01:47,829 --> 01:01:45,839
or receiver what if it was a receiver

1721
01:01:50,870 --> 01:01:47,839
yeah well a transmitter is usually a

1722
01:01:52,390 --> 01:01:50,880
receiver i think or you know um it isn't

1723
01:01:54,470 --> 01:01:52,400
radar no i'm just kidding

1724
01:01:56,309 --> 01:01:54,480
yeah like an amplifier

1725
01:01:57,829 --> 01:01:56,319
yeah yeah it's an amplifier there you go

1726
01:01:59,349 --> 01:01:57,839
it's not the receiver of the transmitter

1727
01:02:01,109 --> 01:01:59,359
it's an amplifier

1728
01:02:03,510 --> 01:02:01,119
so it's like a scalar wave that's

1729
01:02:06,549 --> 01:02:03,520
alexa's kind of thing is that um

1730
01:02:09,270 --> 01:02:06,559
the magic box have you heard of this

1731
01:02:11,990 --> 01:02:09,280
the magic square uh it's a magic square

1732
01:02:14,710 --> 01:02:12,000
do you imagine like uh sudoku of four

1733
01:02:16,710 --> 01:02:14,720
lines and four lines uh you know

1734
01:02:18,390 --> 01:02:16,720
um and each

1735
01:02:21,190 --> 01:02:18,400
row adds up to

1736
01:02:23,109 --> 01:02:21,200
the same number all the way around

1737
01:02:27,029 --> 01:02:23,119
does that make sense called the magic

1738
01:02:29,430 --> 01:02:27,039
square is 34. it's like liquid geometry

1739
01:02:32,390 --> 01:02:29,440
yeah so the magic square if if you do it

1740
01:02:34,630 --> 01:02:32,400
this certain way 34 34 34 is all the way

1741
01:02:36,950 --> 01:02:34,640
around and then inside of each corner

1742
01:02:39,109 --> 01:02:36,960
every each side of each uh 25 percent of

1743
01:02:41,029 --> 01:02:39,119
it is adds up to i don't know the same

1744
01:02:42,789 --> 01:02:41,039
or something it's like a super

1745
01:02:44,630 --> 01:02:42,799
symmetrical basically called the magic

1746
01:02:46,829 --> 01:02:44,640
square

1747
01:02:48,710 --> 01:02:46,839
well it kind of gives you a way to do a

1748
01:02:50,309 --> 01:02:48,720
scalar um

1749
01:02:51,910 --> 01:02:50,319
spin up

1750
01:02:54,309 --> 01:02:51,920
if you follow it because it'll be like

1751
01:02:56,390 --> 01:02:54,319
number one because sorry yeah number one

1752
01:02:59,910 --> 01:02:56,400
if you go one two three four five all

1753
01:03:04,470 --> 01:02:59,920
the way around it makes a scalar wave

1754
01:03:06,870 --> 01:03:04,480
and so that is what um alexa is i think

1755
01:03:08,150 --> 01:03:06,880
yeah is basically if we can

1756
01:03:10,069 --> 01:03:08,160
if you can

1757
01:03:11,589 --> 01:03:10,079
get the right ratio which i think is one

1758
01:03:13,029 --> 01:03:11,599
to four

1759
01:03:14,549 --> 01:03:13,039
you can

1760
01:03:17,510 --> 01:03:14,559
you know basically create an

1761
01:03:20,069 --> 01:03:17,520
interdimensional telescope or something

1762
01:03:24,069 --> 01:03:20,079
the idea is that what he's doing is that

1763
01:03:25,829 --> 01:03:24,079
what his angle of of uh your partnership

1764
01:03:28,230 --> 01:03:25,839
i don't know he said we need to talk

1765
01:03:29,670 --> 01:03:28,240
about pyramids that's the way at the end

1766
01:03:31,270 --> 01:03:29,680
we gotta go

1767
01:03:34,950 --> 01:03:31,280
no our partnership is about going to

1768
01:03:36,230 --> 01:03:34,960
space and nfts and doing cool stuff like

1769
01:03:39,190 --> 01:03:36,240
that

1770
01:03:42,309 --> 01:03:39,200
space

1771
01:03:43,430 --> 01:03:42,319
yes so he's on the nft project as well

1772
01:03:45,349 --> 01:03:43,440
so

1773
01:03:47,589 --> 01:03:45,359
if our plans go right you'll see him on

1774
01:03:49,910 --> 01:03:47,599
uh you'll see him at ufo disclosure

1775
01:03:51,750 --> 01:03:49,920
sorry sorry the other way tell us about

1776
01:03:53,829 --> 01:03:51,760
it uh yeah tell tell us about him a

1777
01:03:55,750 --> 01:03:53,839
little bit

1778
01:03:59,430 --> 01:03:55,760
alexei or

1779
01:04:02,230 --> 01:03:59,440
yeah alexa is awesome man he's um

1780
01:04:04,950 --> 01:04:02,240
he basically has a physics background

1781
01:04:06,950 --> 01:04:04,960
and then he kind of uh

1782
01:04:08,789 --> 01:04:06,960
i don't know went off into the woods and

1783
01:04:11,029 --> 01:04:08,799
meditated for i don't know how many

1784
01:04:13,510 --> 01:04:11,039
months years

1785
01:04:15,589 --> 01:04:13,520
uh now he's back

1786
01:04:17,910 --> 01:04:15,599
but he had a lot of delusions the henry

1787
01:04:21,109 --> 01:04:17,920
david thoreau of physics okay he's a

1788
01:04:22,950 --> 01:04:21,119
deep dude man yeah exactly so you

1789
01:04:25,270 --> 01:04:22,960
basically get you know he's able to

1790
01:04:28,710 --> 01:04:25,280
meditate super

1791
01:04:31,750 --> 01:04:28,720
well and he can communicate

1792
01:04:33,349 --> 01:04:31,760
with known things i don't know

1793
01:04:35,349 --> 01:04:33,359
and uh

1794
01:04:37,029 --> 01:04:35,359
yeah so i don't know he i like talking

1795
01:04:38,950 --> 01:04:37,039
to him i like his energy i like he's

1796
01:04:41,750 --> 01:04:38,960
interested in

1797
01:04:44,069 --> 01:04:41,760
he has ambitious goals to

1798
01:04:46,870 --> 01:04:44,079
uh help humanity

1799
01:04:48,069 --> 01:04:46,880
and and yeah i i respect that you know

1800
01:04:50,069 --> 01:04:48,079
and

1801
01:04:51,990 --> 01:04:50,079
yeah plus he's done

1802
01:04:53,270 --> 01:04:52,000
he's done a lot of cool stuff so and he

1803
01:04:55,750 --> 01:04:53,280
opened my mind to a lot of things you

1804
01:04:57,430 --> 01:04:55,760
know about uh his basic argument is that

1805
01:04:58,710 --> 01:04:57,440
we're you could argue we're inside of a

1806
01:05:00,470 --> 01:04:58,720
black hole

1807
01:05:02,150 --> 01:05:00,480
uh we're just orbiting at different

1808
01:05:05,430 --> 01:05:02,160
different ranges from the from the

1809
01:05:06,950 --> 01:05:05,440
center right and your frequency is

1810
01:05:09,270 --> 01:05:06,960
um

1811
01:05:12,390 --> 01:05:09,280
related to uh

1812
01:05:13,910 --> 01:05:12,400
your uh wavelength right

1813
01:05:15,829 --> 01:05:13,920
so we're all at the same basic

1814
01:05:17,349 --> 01:05:15,839
wavelength which is about the speed of

1815
01:05:19,190 --> 01:05:17,359
light that's that's what our

1816
01:05:20,470 --> 01:05:19,200
acceleration is towards time so he says

1817
01:05:22,390 --> 01:05:20,480
basically everybody's accelerating

1818
01:05:24,150 --> 01:05:22,400
towards the center of the black hole at

1819
01:05:25,750 --> 01:05:24,160
the speed of light so we're all orbiting

1820
01:05:27,750 --> 01:05:25,760
the same we come into synchronicities

1821
01:05:28,870 --> 01:05:27,760
together and that's how we can manifest

1822
01:05:30,470 --> 01:05:28,880
and um

1823
01:05:33,190 --> 01:05:30,480
interact with each other

1824
01:05:36,069 --> 01:05:33,200
and and how big is our solar system in

1825
01:05:39,910 --> 01:05:36,079
relation to the size of the black hole

1826
01:05:41,620 --> 01:05:39,920
that we're in in his estimation

1827
01:05:42,870 --> 01:05:41,630
i i think it's all um

1828
01:05:44,789 --> 01:05:42,880
[Music]

1829
01:05:45,829 --> 01:05:44,799
basically it says we're all kind of the

1830
01:05:49,029 --> 01:05:45,839
same

1831
01:05:50,870 --> 01:05:49,039
understand

1832
01:05:52,470 --> 01:05:50,880
is that you can affect everything

1833
01:05:56,069 --> 01:05:52,480
affects everything else at an infinite

1834
01:05:57,670 --> 01:05:56,079
distance it's just very small far away

1835
01:06:00,630 --> 01:05:57,680
but still affects it

1836
01:06:03,910 --> 01:06:00,640
so that supports that theory that

1837
01:06:07,589 --> 01:06:03,920
uh that ufos turned up when there was a

1838
01:06:09,589 --> 01:06:07,599
nuclear explosion testing in new mexico

1839
01:06:11,589 --> 01:06:09,599
that got their attention because though

1840
01:06:13,029 --> 01:06:11,599
they may have been at an infinite

1841
01:06:15,589 --> 01:06:13,039
distance away

1842
01:06:18,069 --> 01:06:15,599
they were aware there was that sort of

1843
01:06:19,670 --> 01:06:18,079
tremor in the force to use a star wars

1844
01:06:20,870 --> 01:06:19,680
ism

1845
01:06:23,750 --> 01:06:20,880
yeah

1846
01:06:25,109 --> 01:06:23,760
sense um

1847
01:06:26,789 --> 01:06:25,119
basically we're all a lot closer than

1848
01:06:28,150 --> 01:06:26,799
you think everything's a lot closer than

1849
01:06:29,670 --> 01:06:28,160
you think it's just in a different

1850
01:06:31,109 --> 01:06:29,680
dimension

1851
01:06:32,870 --> 01:06:31,119
and that's my argument it's a size

1852
01:06:33,750 --> 01:06:32,880
dimension based on

1853
01:06:36,630 --> 01:06:33,760
um

1854
01:06:38,870 --> 01:06:36,640
orbiting inside of a black hole

1855
01:06:40,470 --> 01:06:38,880
that's just one yeah that's his i don't

1856
01:06:42,150 --> 01:06:40,480
i don't you know i don't know the black

1857
01:06:44,069 --> 01:06:42,160
hole thing that's his

1858
01:06:45,750 --> 01:06:44,079
uh mine is we're just inside of you can

1859
01:06:47,109 --> 01:06:45,760
see the dimensions right we can see

1860
01:06:48,950 --> 01:06:47,119
smaller dimensions of life and we can

1861
01:06:50,870 --> 01:06:48,960
see i argue we can see larger dimensions

1862
01:06:53,109 --> 01:06:50,880
of life we just assume it's it's dark

1863
01:06:54,950 --> 01:06:53,119
matter

1864
01:06:56,789 --> 01:06:54,960
what larger dimensions of life are you

1865
01:06:57,990 --> 01:06:56,799
referring to

1866
01:07:00,950 --> 01:06:58,000
um

1867
01:07:02,470 --> 01:07:00,960
the the easiest one to see is uh

1868
01:07:05,270 --> 01:07:02,480
the nation i think is probably the

1869
01:07:07,349 --> 01:07:05,280
easiest or corporations

1870
01:07:09,109 --> 01:07:07,359
so the humans basically organized into

1871
01:07:10,470 --> 01:07:09,119
small groups if you can imagine back

1872
01:07:12,309 --> 01:07:10,480
when we were tribes it's like a little

1873
01:07:14,870 --> 01:07:12,319
amoeba

1874
01:07:16,950 --> 01:07:14,880
and and that basically is that whatever

1875
01:07:19,270 --> 01:07:16,960
you want to call that super organism or

1876
01:07:21,750 --> 01:07:19,280
next dimension of life i call it

1877
01:07:24,230 --> 01:07:21,760
uh has organized now into what we see is

1878
01:07:26,230 --> 01:07:24,240
modern nations cities corporations

1879
01:07:27,349 --> 01:07:26,240
groups you know

1880
01:07:29,109 --> 01:07:27,359
um

1881
01:07:31,029 --> 01:07:29,119
so that's the easiest i think larger

1882
01:07:32,390 --> 01:07:31,039
dimension of life is like uh the nation

1883
01:07:33,430 --> 01:07:32,400
you're in you know you're born in it you

1884
01:07:34,710 --> 01:07:33,440
die

1885
01:07:35,829 --> 01:07:34,720
you get a social security number you

1886
01:07:37,349 --> 01:07:35,839
have to go to school to fill certain

1887
01:07:39,510 --> 01:07:37,359
roles in the society right just like

1888
01:07:40,950 --> 01:07:39,520
your your cells

1889
01:07:43,270 --> 01:07:40,960
you know

1890
01:07:44,470 --> 01:07:43,280
unfortunately if you end up in your

1891
01:07:46,309 --> 01:07:44,480
digestive system you're only going to

1892
01:07:47,829 --> 01:07:46,319
live like four days right you're out in

1893
01:07:49,670 --> 01:07:47,839
the front lines

1894
01:07:51,270 --> 01:07:49,680
uh if you're a neuron man you're up in

1895
01:07:52,309 --> 01:07:51,280
the top you're that one percent you live

1896
01:07:54,309 --> 01:07:52,319
forever

1897
01:07:55,510 --> 01:07:54,319
right until the whole organism dies you

1898
01:07:56,390 --> 01:07:55,520
know

1899
01:07:58,470 --> 01:07:56,400
um

1900
01:08:00,230 --> 01:07:58,480
and i think the problem is that the

1901
01:08:01,430 --> 01:08:00,240
organisms above us don't realize that

1902
01:08:02,789 --> 01:08:01,440
that that we're here or they get they

1903
01:08:04,309 --> 01:08:02,799
don't give a [\h__\h]

1904
01:08:05,990 --> 01:08:04,319
um

1905
01:08:09,109 --> 01:08:06,000
yeah they're not sentient they have

1906
01:08:12,150 --> 01:08:10,789
so that's what i think i think it keeps

1907
01:08:14,710 --> 01:08:12,160
going as well so when you asked about

1908
01:08:17,269 --> 01:08:14,720
dna different levels um yeah i think

1909
01:08:19,590 --> 01:08:17,279
likely we are surrounded by probably

1910
01:08:21,269 --> 01:08:19,600
billions or trillions of other seed

1911
01:08:22,950 --> 01:08:21,279
worlds like our own

1912
01:08:24,870 --> 01:08:22,960
you know normally when we find out stuff

1913
01:08:26,550 --> 01:08:24,880
the number is just mind-blowing right we

1914
01:08:27,749 --> 01:08:26,560
just can't believe it so i think we're

1915
01:08:29,349 --> 01:08:27,759
going to look around and be like oh

1916
01:08:30,709 --> 01:08:29,359
there's another solar system over there

1917
01:08:32,070 --> 01:08:30,719
you know and there's another so like

1918
01:08:33,030 --> 01:08:32,080
that's what always happened and then

1919
01:08:34,870 --> 01:08:33,040
we're like

1920
01:08:36,950 --> 01:08:34,880
like let's go there you know we go and

1921
01:08:39,189 --> 01:08:36,960
we find ourselves and we're like no [\h__\h]

1922
01:08:40,789 --> 01:08:39,199
you know like the same thing european

1923
01:08:43,829 --> 01:08:40,799
you're here too how did you get here

1924
01:08:46,070 --> 01:08:43,839
like we came you know back in the

1925
01:08:48,149 --> 01:08:46,080
whatever when we were dinosaurs dark age

1926
01:08:51,030 --> 01:08:48,159
right yeah the first dark age you know

1927
01:08:53,590 --> 01:08:51,040
or yeah if it's humans again um

1928
01:08:56,070 --> 01:08:53,600
so yeah i think it's usually much bigger

1929
01:08:58,309 --> 01:08:56,080
than we can imagine and

1930
01:09:00,630 --> 01:08:58,319
we don't we're not the center

1931
01:09:02,149 --> 01:09:00,640
uh that would be my guess and so i think

1932
01:09:05,829 --> 01:09:02,159
right now if you're just inside of a

1933
01:09:07,430 --> 01:09:05,839
large organism you're forced to do it um

1934
01:09:08,870 --> 01:09:07,440
i see the similarities with youtube as

1935
01:09:09,829 --> 01:09:08,880
well as a major in similarity with the

1936
01:09:14,789 --> 01:09:09,839
brain

1937
01:09:17,349 --> 01:09:14,799
your neurons are tiny little processors

1938
01:09:19,749 --> 01:09:17,359
so they they're thresholds right so

1939
01:09:20,789 --> 01:09:19,759
um they process the information

1940
01:09:22,149 --> 01:09:20,799
whereas

1941
01:09:24,149 --> 01:09:22,159
if you're just sending information it's

1942
01:09:25,269 --> 01:09:24,159
communication right so you have two

1943
01:09:26,789 --> 01:09:25,279
types of kind of

1944
01:09:27,990 --> 01:09:26,799
kind of information of

1945
01:09:29,990 --> 01:09:28,000
um

1946
01:09:31,030 --> 01:09:30,000
sending it communication wise right you

1947
01:09:32,070 --> 01:09:31,040
don't have to change it you can just

1948
01:09:33,189 --> 01:09:32,080
send it

1949
01:09:34,870 --> 01:09:33,199
but if you're gonna change it now you're

1950
01:09:36,390 --> 01:09:34,880
going to process it so that's what your

1951
01:09:37,910 --> 01:09:36,400
brain actually does your little neurons

1952
01:09:39,510 --> 01:09:37,920
right they they reach through the neural

1953
01:09:41,510 --> 01:09:39,520
network as it comes up it reaches a

1954
01:09:42,950 --> 01:09:41,520
threshold and then it passes it on to

1955
01:09:44,709 --> 01:09:42,960
the rest of the network

1956
01:09:47,030 --> 01:09:44,719
um but if you look at me like as a

1957
01:09:48,470 --> 01:09:47,040
youtuber and you guys is also youtubers

1958
01:09:50,309 --> 01:09:48,480
i receive information

1959
01:09:52,390 --> 01:09:50,319
right i just receive it

1960
01:09:54,390 --> 01:09:52,400
and then i process it and using my

1961
01:09:55,990 --> 01:09:54,400
neural network systems right and then i

1962
01:09:58,310 --> 01:09:56,000
disperse it back out in the network

1963
01:09:59,910 --> 01:09:58,320
right and like as i get more you know if

1964
01:10:01,590 --> 01:09:59,920
i get more subs right now i'm like

1965
01:10:03,750 --> 01:10:01,600
higher up in the network you know but if

1966
01:10:05,350 --> 01:10:03,760
you imagine it's like this um

1967
01:10:06,950 --> 01:10:05,360
there's you can see a neural network

1968
01:10:09,270 --> 01:10:06,960
forming

1969
01:10:12,229 --> 01:10:09,280
um and i think it's yeah i think it's

1970
01:10:14,550 --> 01:10:12,239
awesome i think that will be the next

1971
01:10:16,149 --> 01:10:14,560
level i could bounce this again i'm

1972
01:10:18,390 --> 01:10:16,159
gonna want to talk about simulation

1973
01:10:19,510 --> 01:10:18,400
theory relative to this but i gotta pass

1974
01:10:21,270 --> 01:10:19,520
it over

1975
01:10:23,110 --> 01:10:21,280
to my brother

1976
01:10:24,310 --> 01:10:23,120
money nathan

1977
01:10:26,950 --> 01:10:24,320
there are so many directions i want to

1978
01:10:28,149 --> 01:10:26,960
take this conversation um

1979
01:10:29,990 --> 01:10:28,159
but i'm gonna go back to the

1980
01:10:31,990 --> 01:10:30,000
consciousness one that's one what you

1981
01:10:34,550 --> 01:10:32,000
touched on earlier and since we are both

1982
01:10:36,470 --> 01:10:34,560
fans or bernardo castro that we can uh

1983
01:10:38,550 --> 01:10:36,480
touch on that a little bit so

1984
01:10:41,189 --> 01:10:38,560
um

1985
01:10:43,590 --> 01:10:41,199
for those who are not familiar with that

1986
01:10:45,350 --> 01:10:43,600
the idea right we have kind of two main

1987
01:10:47,590 --> 01:10:45,360
just we'll set this up real quick that

1988
01:10:49,350 --> 01:10:47,600
there are two main sort of metaphysical

1989
01:10:50,790 --> 01:10:49,360
concepts there's materialism which is

1990
01:10:52,310 --> 01:10:50,800
the one that we all are the most

1991
01:10:54,630 --> 01:10:52,320
familiar with

1992
01:10:55,510 --> 01:10:54,640
uh the world reality is comprised of

1993
01:10:57,430 --> 01:10:55,520
matter

1994
01:10:59,910 --> 01:10:57,440
uh we can reduce that all the way down

1995
01:11:02,630 --> 01:10:59,920
to the tiny little uh sort of things

1996
01:11:04,950 --> 01:11:02,640
that quarks and whatever things that we

1997
01:11:07,430 --> 01:11:04,960
our physics say exist

1998
01:11:10,550 --> 01:11:07,440
and consciousness comes out of

1999
01:11:13,110 --> 01:11:10,560
interactions that occur between

2000
01:11:15,030 --> 01:11:13,120
amongst sort of aggregating

2001
01:11:16,790 --> 01:11:15,040
bits of matter we don't quite know how

2002
01:11:19,350 --> 01:11:16,800
it works but that's the general concept

2003
01:11:21,910 --> 01:11:19,360
you know brains create our consciousness

2004
01:11:23,669 --> 01:11:21,920
uh idealism is the sort of a different

2005
01:11:24,709 --> 01:11:23,679
way of looking at this issue it's saying

2006
01:11:26,790 --> 01:11:24,719
that

2007
01:11:28,950 --> 01:11:26,800
we don't have

2008
01:11:30,950 --> 01:11:28,960
uh direct experience of matter all we

2009
01:11:33,669 --> 01:11:30,960
have is our experience itself

2010
01:11:35,830 --> 01:11:33,679
and experience is thus the foundation of

2011
01:11:37,189 --> 01:11:35,840
what all there really is matter is

2012
01:11:39,830 --> 01:11:37,199
really just a

2013
01:11:41,669 --> 01:11:39,840
uh kind of a projection of mind it's not

2014
01:11:42,709 --> 01:11:41,679
uh it's not a real thing it's something

2015
01:11:46,470 --> 01:11:42,719
that we

2016
01:11:47,189 --> 01:11:46,480
uh just by being thinking things uh sort

2017
01:11:48,550 --> 01:11:47,199
of

2018
01:11:50,070 --> 01:11:48,560
manifest

2019
01:11:52,149 --> 01:11:50,080
in a way but it

2020
01:11:53,830 --> 01:11:52,159
it's um

2021
01:11:54,950 --> 01:11:53,840
it's a different way of uh thinking

2022
01:11:57,750 --> 01:11:54,960
about

2023
01:11:59,350 --> 01:11:57,760
the ufo and and i think not just the ufo

2024
01:12:00,630 --> 01:11:59,360
problem but but of

2025
01:12:02,550 --> 01:12:00,640
sort of what we hear and sort of

2026
01:12:04,950 --> 01:12:02,560
consciousness research itself i don't

2027
01:12:06,470 --> 01:12:04,960
know to what degree you've looked at uh

2028
01:12:08,950 --> 01:12:06,480
things like

2029
01:12:10,630 --> 01:12:08,960
uh the life after death kinds of studies

2030
01:12:12,229 --> 01:12:10,640
or the things that um

2031
01:12:13,750 --> 01:12:12,239
the the bigelow institute for

2032
01:12:15,430 --> 01:12:13,760
consciousness studies

2033
01:12:16,470 --> 01:12:15,440
so the winner of that contest if you

2034
01:12:18,630 --> 01:12:16,480
haven't read it i would encourage

2035
01:12:20,630 --> 01:12:18,640
everybody to take a look at it uh was is

2036
01:12:23,270 --> 01:12:20,640
dr jeffrey mishloh he wrote a hundred

2037
01:12:24,790 --> 01:12:23,280
page pdf it's free it's got a ton of

2038
01:12:26,709 --> 01:12:24,800
videos on it but what he basically does

2039
01:12:28,709 --> 01:12:26,719
is he goes through all of the sort of

2040
01:12:30,790 --> 01:12:28,719
evidence for the survival of

2041
01:12:33,830 --> 01:12:30,800
consciousness after death and honestly

2042
01:12:36,390 --> 01:12:33,840
to me that evidence is more compelling

2043
01:12:38,709 --> 01:12:36,400
than the ufo evidence and so what

2044
01:12:41,189 --> 01:12:38,719
idealists i think are going to do

2045
01:12:43,350 --> 01:12:41,199
is they're going to take this notion

2046
01:12:45,350 --> 01:12:43,360
of consciousness being fundamental and

2047
01:12:47,830 --> 01:12:45,360
they're going to map onto all of these

2048
01:12:49,669 --> 01:12:47,840
different things paranormal paranormal

2049
01:12:51,510 --> 01:12:49,679
paranormality high strangers the

2050
01:12:53,669 --> 01:12:51,520
survival of consciousness ufos and say

2051
01:12:56,390 --> 01:12:53,679
look it's all coming from mind

2052
01:12:57,990 --> 01:12:56,400
right it's all stemming from from mind i

2053
01:12:59,990 --> 01:12:58,000
know you've gotten into this recently

2054
01:13:02,310 --> 01:13:00,000
and you know kind of pursuing it and

2055
01:13:03,830 --> 01:13:02,320
have you do you feel like it meshes well

2056
01:13:05,270 --> 01:13:03,840
with with the concept you just talked

2057
01:13:08,390 --> 01:13:05,280
about the sort of

2058
01:13:09,990 --> 01:13:08,400
larger organism this kind of layering up

2059
01:13:11,590 --> 01:13:10,000
uh sort of

2060
01:13:15,270 --> 01:13:11,600
notion do you think that these things do

2061
01:13:18,550 --> 01:13:17,430
i do well i don't i've been trying to

2062
01:13:20,709 --> 01:13:18,560
find any

2063
01:13:25,590 --> 01:13:20,719
um

2064
01:13:27,830 --> 01:13:25,600
and things that do work obviously

2065
01:13:29,189 --> 01:13:27,840
but really to shoot a theory down is you

2066
01:13:31,270 --> 01:13:29,199
know things that don't work obvious

2067
01:13:35,830 --> 01:13:31,280
things that don't work

2068
01:13:37,910 --> 01:13:35,840
um and when i analyzed analytic idealism

2069
01:13:39,750 --> 01:13:37,920
um so i basically i took it as they're

2070
01:13:42,229 --> 01:13:39,760
kind of opposites

2071
01:13:43,669 --> 01:13:42,239
you know materialism is the material

2072
01:13:45,830 --> 01:13:43,679
world are

2073
01:13:47,430 --> 01:13:45,840
the things that work our biological

2074
01:13:49,030 --> 01:13:47,440
machinery

2075
01:13:50,950 --> 01:13:49,040
ultimately creates

2076
01:13:52,229 --> 01:13:50,960
the experience that we're undergoing

2077
01:13:53,910 --> 01:13:52,239
right that's kind of what i understand

2078
01:13:56,070 --> 01:13:53,920
and then what i understood from

2079
01:13:58,149 --> 01:13:56,080
idealism is it goes the other way

2080
01:14:00,550 --> 01:13:58,159
is it actually some extra extra force

2081
01:14:02,229 --> 01:14:00,560
some extra some extra thing

2082
01:14:05,350 --> 01:14:02,239
extra physical

2083
01:14:06,790 --> 01:14:05,360
um is actually what's driving the bottom

2084
01:14:08,229 --> 01:14:06,800
and driving all the physics and

2085
01:14:11,270 --> 01:14:08,239
everything so i think of them kind of

2086
01:14:12,709 --> 01:14:11,280
two as a posing really opposite argument

2087
01:14:14,630 --> 01:14:12,719
i don't think you can believe one and

2088
01:14:16,470 --> 01:14:14,640
believe the other right you know so

2089
01:14:19,590 --> 01:14:16,480
they're mutually exclusive

2090
01:14:22,550 --> 01:14:19,600
um but i do think that the

2091
01:14:24,470 --> 01:14:22,560
the scales are so mind-boggling

2092
01:14:28,790 --> 01:14:24,480
you know when you just consider looking

2093
01:14:30,950 --> 01:14:28,800
down how how many cells you make you up

2094
01:14:32,229 --> 01:14:30,960
is insane man

2095
01:14:33,430 --> 01:14:32,239
you know i don't think anyone can really

2096
01:14:35,350 --> 01:14:33,440
cross that

2097
01:14:37,189 --> 01:14:35,360
um and that's not even going down to the

2098
01:14:38,950 --> 01:14:37,199
smaller levels you know it's just the

2099
01:14:41,189 --> 01:14:38,960
cellular level

2100
01:14:44,470 --> 01:14:41,199
and then when you go up

2101
01:14:47,189 --> 01:14:44,480
the the scale is just so unbelievable

2102
01:14:49,340 --> 01:14:47,199
um that it does seem like it would

2103
01:14:51,590 --> 01:14:49,350
something extra sensory um

2104
01:14:54,310 --> 01:14:51,600
[Music]

2105
01:14:57,830 --> 01:14:54,320
yeah it seems like the the type of thing

2106
01:15:01,110 --> 01:14:57,840
of wavelengths um just makes more sense

2107
01:15:02,550 --> 01:15:01,120
i guess to my brain that it's possible

2108
01:15:04,630 --> 01:15:02,560
but there are different layers of

2109
01:15:06,950 --> 01:15:04,640
cognition and sort of what you would say

2110
01:15:08,630 --> 01:15:06,960
as well right so that there's

2111
01:15:11,030 --> 01:15:08,640
there's our conscious experience of

2112
01:15:12,229 --> 01:15:11,040
being chris of nathan of dj right but

2113
01:15:14,550 --> 01:15:12,239
but there's a

2114
01:15:16,550 --> 01:15:14,560
a higher conscious experience that isn't

2115
01:15:20,390 --> 01:15:16,560
in some ways an aggregate of some of

2116
01:15:21,510 --> 01:15:20,400
these individualized experiences

2117
01:15:23,270 --> 01:15:21,520
yes

2118
01:15:24,950 --> 01:15:23,280
yeah i've been thinking about that you

2119
01:15:27,510 --> 01:15:24,960
know i watched after i did that whole

2120
01:15:29,830 --> 01:15:27,520
analytic idealism course uh i listened

2121
01:15:31,669 --> 01:15:29,840
to sam harris he gave on lex friedman he

2122
01:15:33,750 --> 01:15:31,679
talked about free will

2123
01:15:34,870 --> 01:15:33,760
um and he says you know it doesn't exist

2124
01:15:37,350 --> 01:15:34,880
and

2125
01:15:39,510 --> 01:15:37,360
because he's able to meditate like again

2126
01:15:41,590 --> 01:15:39,520
super low and he can um

2127
01:15:43,110 --> 01:15:41,600
the next word that comes out he you

2128
01:15:44,630 --> 01:15:43,120
can't actually see where it's coming the

2129
01:15:45,830 --> 01:15:44,640
next thought

2130
01:15:48,470 --> 01:15:45,840
so you don't really have free will at

2131
01:15:50,229 --> 01:15:48,480
least over your thoughts um

2132
01:15:52,070 --> 01:15:50,239
and what i was thinking is if you if

2133
01:15:53,830 --> 01:15:52,080
you're talking about actually where you

2134
01:15:55,750 --> 01:15:53,840
think about where we come from right

2135
01:15:56,870 --> 01:15:55,760
you're actually grown at the quantum

2136
01:16:00,070 --> 01:15:56,880
level

2137
01:16:02,229 --> 01:16:00,080
one sperm cell right with one egg

2138
01:16:03,830 --> 01:16:02,239
all it is is like that one

2139
01:16:06,149 --> 01:16:03,840
bit of dna

2140
01:16:09,270 --> 01:16:06,159
um so you're actually grown we're each

2141
01:16:11,990 --> 01:16:09,280
grown from the quantum level up to this

2142
01:16:13,510 --> 01:16:12,000
dimension that we're in now

2143
01:16:14,630 --> 01:16:13,520
um and so

2144
01:16:51,669 --> 01:16:14,640
i

2145
01:16:53,830 --> 01:16:51,679
wavelengths

2146
01:16:59,510 --> 01:16:53,840
so just one quick follow-up is our is

2147
01:17:03,669 --> 01:17:01,270
you could argue in this model that we're

2148
01:17:05,750 --> 01:17:03,679
already interconnected we're already

2149
01:17:07,750 --> 01:17:05,760
sharing a sort of conscious experience

2150
01:17:08,950 --> 01:17:07,760
without technology but because of our

2151
01:17:11,110 --> 01:17:08,960
technology

2152
01:17:13,350 --> 01:17:11,120
we're manifesting an interconnected

2153
01:17:15,510 --> 01:17:13,360
conscious experience that is in some

2154
01:17:17,030 --> 01:17:15,520
ways synthetic or

2155
01:17:19,750 --> 01:17:17,040
different than

2156
01:17:21,110 --> 01:17:19,760
how we're doing it just naturally so you

2157
01:17:22,870 --> 01:17:21,120
know could we have this sort of

2158
01:17:25,750 --> 01:17:22,880
divergence in a way like where there's

2159
01:17:28,229 --> 01:17:25,760
like a a technological emergence of

2160
01:17:30,070 --> 01:17:28,239
conscious experience and and our in our

2161
01:17:34,229 --> 01:17:30,080
already existing conscious experience

2162
01:17:38,229 --> 01:17:34,239
that that doesn't rely on technology

2163
01:17:42,950 --> 01:17:40,870
people assume that technology is not

2164
01:17:44,790 --> 01:17:42,960
nature

2165
01:17:46,709 --> 01:17:44,800
right but you know everything that we

2166
01:17:49,430 --> 01:17:46,719
you see around you was made from earth

2167
01:17:51,030 --> 01:17:49,440
on earth right yeah so

2168
01:17:52,709 --> 01:17:51,040
it's just what we see it as at our

2169
01:17:54,790 --> 01:17:52,719
dimensional level

2170
01:17:56,550 --> 01:17:54,800
right if you go down into your cytoplasm

2171
01:17:58,709 --> 01:17:56,560
of your each of your little cells it's

2172
01:18:01,030 --> 01:17:58,719
not going to look like

2173
01:18:03,990 --> 01:18:01,040
probably what you're expecting you know

2174
01:18:06,070 --> 01:18:04,000
it may not even look natural

2175
01:18:08,470 --> 01:18:06,080
right but it is

2176
01:18:09,669 --> 01:18:08,480
the roads that we created

2177
01:18:11,830 --> 01:18:09,679
are natural

2178
01:18:13,669 --> 01:18:11,840
came from earth you know that's a great

2179
01:18:16,070 --> 01:18:13,679
that's a great point because we look in

2180
01:18:18,070 --> 01:18:16,080
terms of organic and synthetic but for

2181
01:18:19,910 --> 01:18:18,080
for that matter everything is synthetic

2182
01:18:21,350 --> 01:18:19,920
that we created from that standpoint

2183
01:18:23,030 --> 01:18:21,360
that's not it's made out of the same

2184
01:18:25,590 --> 01:18:23,040
things as dust it's made out of the same

2185
01:18:27,830 --> 01:18:25,600
things as us it looks different

2186
01:18:29,350 --> 01:18:27,840
we're making a semantic

2187
01:18:32,310 --> 01:18:29,360
differentiation there's no real

2188
01:18:34,229 --> 01:18:32,320
differentiation correct yes right

2189
01:18:36,870 --> 01:18:34,239
the problem is that we see it as a

2190
01:18:40,149 --> 01:18:36,880
differentiation

2191
01:18:42,550 --> 01:18:40,159
but it's just a different dimension

2192
01:18:44,950 --> 01:18:42,560
of organization

2193
01:18:46,310 --> 01:18:44,960
you know you're made out of minerals and

2194
01:18:48,229 --> 01:18:46,320
liquids and

2195
01:18:50,950 --> 01:18:48,239
you know basically organic or organic

2196
01:18:53,030 --> 01:18:50,960
chemicals chemicals right

2197
01:18:55,270 --> 01:18:53,040
it's made out of minerals if you look at

2198
01:18:56,709 --> 01:18:55,280
in america or whatever some nations made

2199
01:18:57,910 --> 01:18:56,719
out of minerals

2200
01:19:00,310 --> 01:18:57,920
liquids

2201
01:19:01,430 --> 01:19:00,320
organic and or inorganic chemicals right

2202
01:19:05,350 --> 01:19:01,440
it

2203
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just we we think we're the [\h__\h] right we

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01:19:08,550 --> 01:19:07,360
think for the end all meal

2205
01:19:10,630 --> 01:19:08,560
and we i think we are actually i think

2206
01:19:12,070 --> 01:19:10,640
it's all related i think we are kind of

2207
01:19:13,910 --> 01:19:12,080
from the same i believe you know at

2208
01:19:14,709 --> 01:19:13,920
least the analytic idealism seems the

2209
01:19:16,310 --> 01:19:14,719
most

2210
01:19:18,470 --> 01:19:16,320
logical to me you know my dog he was

2211
01:19:21,350 --> 01:19:18,480
just uh dreaming you know he's like

2212
01:19:23,030 --> 01:19:21,360
running in his sleep you know

2213
01:19:24,870 --> 01:19:23,040
i mean what is that we're just like yeah

2214
01:19:26,390 --> 01:19:24,880
it's some other thing you know

2215
01:19:28,310 --> 01:19:26,400
he's obviously having some sort of

2216
01:19:30,070 --> 01:19:28,320
conscious experience the dog i mean you

2217
01:19:31,110 --> 01:19:30,080
look into their eyes and they see fear

2218
01:19:32,709 --> 01:19:31,120
and

2219
01:19:34,149 --> 01:19:32,719
so there's something there this there's

2220
01:19:35,669 --> 01:19:34,159
experience

2221
01:19:37,189 --> 01:19:35,679
uh you know when we think animals don't

2222
01:19:39,510 --> 01:19:37,199
communicate it's like so stupid you know

2223
01:19:41,110 --> 01:19:39,520
oh of course they're communicating

2224
01:19:43,189 --> 01:19:41,120
just we don't understand them yet i

2225
01:19:45,189 --> 01:19:43,199
think we will yeah uh maybe they

2226
01:19:46,550 --> 01:19:45,199
communicate with telepathic you know

2227
01:19:48,310 --> 01:19:46,560
maybe your dog just talked to each other

2228
01:19:50,470 --> 01:19:48,320
telepathically and barking is just like

2229
01:19:53,510 --> 01:19:50,480
uh more effective for them or something

2230
01:19:54,870 --> 01:19:53,520
you know i mean we have no idea um

2231
01:19:57,030 --> 01:19:54,880
yeah but

2232
01:19:58,790 --> 01:19:57,040
i mean i think we're learning and

2233
01:20:01,750 --> 01:19:58,800
i never expected we would ever get this

2234
01:20:04,470 --> 01:20:01,760
far in my lifetime you know

2235
01:20:05,910 --> 01:20:04,480
it's uh you see how fast it's changing

2236
01:20:07,350 --> 01:20:05,920
right

2237
01:20:09,750 --> 01:20:07,360
yeah so i think we're going to have a

2238
01:20:11,350 --> 01:20:09,760
lot of understanding happen quickly

2239
01:20:13,270 --> 01:20:11,360
uh artificial intelligence is going to

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01:20:14,790 --> 01:20:13,280
keep pushing

2241
01:20:16,149 --> 01:20:14,800
you know just look at what you can do

2242
01:20:17,110 --> 01:20:16,159
with google i mean you can ask it for

2243
01:20:18,390 --> 01:20:17,120
anything

2244
01:20:19,830 --> 01:20:18,400
um

2245
01:20:21,330 --> 01:20:19,840
information is

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01:20:22,790 --> 01:20:21,340
open and free um

2247
01:20:24,470 --> 01:20:22,800
[Music]

2248
01:20:25,510 --> 01:20:24,480
i mean we get hit by enough energy every

2249
01:20:27,430 --> 01:20:25,520
day to

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01:20:29,030 --> 01:20:27,440
destroy the earth like 100 times over

2251
01:20:31,030 --> 01:20:29,040
there's we have enough energy everybody

2252
01:20:33,030 --> 01:20:31,040
like it's yeah i don't know i think i

2253
01:20:34,950 --> 01:20:33,040
feel like we can it's a solvable problem

2254
01:20:36,950 --> 01:20:34,960
and maybe this uap thing and you know

2255
01:20:38,709 --> 01:20:36,960
followed right on the top of covid

2256
01:20:40,629 --> 01:20:38,719
you know um just kind of shocked

2257
01:20:41,990 --> 01:20:40,639
everybody and now it's like

2258
01:20:43,750 --> 01:20:42,000
all right maybe we can stop shooting

2259
01:20:45,590 --> 01:20:43,760
each other doing stupid [\h__\h] probably

2260
01:20:48,310 --> 01:20:45,600
not right probably not but

2261
01:20:51,350 --> 01:20:48,320
yeah probably we can try

2262
01:20:53,189 --> 01:20:51,360
because it doesn't take many people to

2263
01:20:53,990 --> 01:20:53,199
you know if you talk about a one person

2264
01:20:58,830 --> 01:20:54,000
like

2265
01:21:01,270 --> 01:20:58,840
individual can make a decision and

2266
01:21:02,629 --> 01:21:01,280
override you know hundreds of millions

2267
01:21:05,189 --> 01:21:02,639
of people that

2268
01:21:06,229 --> 01:21:05,199
uh that that live in his country and

2269
01:21:07,830 --> 01:21:06,239
maybe

2270
01:21:09,110 --> 01:21:07,840
three-fourths of them and i'm just

2271
01:21:10,709 --> 01:21:09,120
throwing a number out there i don't know

2272
01:21:13,910 --> 01:21:10,719
that that number's true

2273
01:21:14,709 --> 01:21:13,920
uh do not want to do what he wants to do

2274
01:21:16,310 --> 01:21:14,719
but

2275
01:21:19,110 --> 01:21:16,320
he gets to make that decision and when

2276
01:21:20,550 --> 01:21:19,120
you put have that much power in one

2277
01:21:21,750 --> 01:21:20,560
human being it can be very very

2278
01:21:24,470 --> 01:21:21,760
dangerous

2279
01:21:27,030 --> 01:21:24,480
because their names their ego their

2280
01:21:29,750 --> 01:21:27,040
hopes their dreams their thought that

2281
01:21:31,270 --> 01:21:29,760
their sense of self uh and what they

2282
01:21:34,470 --> 01:21:31,280
seek to their

2283
01:21:37,189 --> 01:21:34,480
how they want to be perceived can inform

2284
01:21:38,709 --> 01:21:37,199
the decision they make that costs

2285
01:21:40,790 --> 01:21:38,719
you know who who knows how many lives

2286
01:21:43,990 --> 01:21:40,800
that's going to cost i think it's much

2287
01:21:49,350 --> 01:21:45,910
i think this this is like a cartoonish

2288
01:21:50,550 --> 01:21:49,360
version that we get in our own society

2289
01:21:51,990 --> 01:21:50,560
in the us

2290
01:21:53,590 --> 01:21:52,000
because you talk to russian people they

2291
01:21:55,830 --> 01:21:53,600
say the exact same thing on the opposite

2292
01:21:58,629 --> 01:21:55,840
side it could be no i'm not doing it

2293
01:22:00,870 --> 01:21:58,639
nato's encroaching on us uh yeah

2294
01:22:02,950 --> 01:22:00,880
it's not exclusive i'm just saying that

2295
01:22:05,110 --> 01:22:02,960
that that it could be it could be our

2296
01:22:06,470 --> 01:22:05,120
country it could be i get no i think i'm

2297
01:22:09,750 --> 01:22:06,480
saying it was

2298
01:22:10,870 --> 01:22:09,760
russia made a russia the country

2299
01:22:12,070 --> 01:22:10,880
led by

2300
01:22:13,830 --> 01:22:12,080
supposedly

2301
01:22:15,750 --> 01:22:13,840
putin right

2302
01:22:17,830 --> 01:22:15,760
russia made the decision i think it was

2303
01:22:20,390 --> 01:22:17,840
an emotional one because it was losing

2304
01:22:21,990 --> 01:22:20,400
like it was being ripped the eukaryote

2305
01:22:24,790 --> 01:22:22,000
ripped from it

2306
01:22:25,910 --> 01:22:24,800
it's an emotional decision you know it

2307
01:22:27,669 --> 01:22:25,920
was a

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01:22:30,229 --> 01:22:27,679
i'm gonna die if i don't

2309
01:22:32,149 --> 01:22:30,239
invade ukraine and bring it back stop it

2310
01:22:34,070 --> 01:22:32,159
from leaving right look at when do all

2311
01:22:35,430 --> 01:22:34,080
the wars happen when somebody goes to

2312
01:22:37,990 --> 01:22:35,440
leave you know

2313
01:22:40,390 --> 01:22:38,000
if texas like was likely texas like hey

2314
01:22:42,390 --> 01:22:40,400
i'm gonna leave and join uh

2315
01:22:45,590 --> 01:22:42,400
the new russian

2316
01:22:47,669 --> 01:22:45,600
russian uh conglomerate they we would

2317
01:22:50,709 --> 01:22:47,679
attack man the rest of america would

2318
01:22:52,070 --> 01:22:50,719
attack texas 100 percent

2319
01:22:53,669 --> 01:22:52,080
and it doesn't matter and they would

2320
01:22:54,709 --> 01:22:53,679
they would say the same thing can you

2321
01:22:57,830 --> 01:22:54,719
believe

2322
01:22:59,590 --> 01:22:57,840
biden is crazy and because that's what

2323
01:23:01,830 --> 01:22:59,600
their news would tell them and they

2324
01:23:03,430 --> 01:23:01,840
would believe it because

2325
01:23:04,629 --> 01:23:03,440
let's look over there everybody you know

2326
01:23:06,070 --> 01:23:04,639
like they haven't been

2327
01:23:07,030 --> 01:23:06,080
all of a sudden everybody's an expert on

2328
01:23:09,350 --> 01:23:07,040
russia

2329
01:23:10,950 --> 01:23:09,360
probably couldn't pick ukraine on a map

2330
01:23:13,270 --> 01:23:10,960
you know um

2331
01:23:15,270 --> 01:23:13,280
no i think it was a i think russia did

2332
01:23:16,550 --> 01:23:15,280
it because that's they thought they were

2333
01:23:17,590 --> 01:23:16,560
going to die russia thought they were

2334
01:23:19,430 --> 01:23:17,600
going to die

2335
01:23:21,270 --> 01:23:19,440
right well rationality means different

2336
01:23:22,790 --> 01:23:21,280
things based on different systems right

2337
01:23:24,550 --> 01:23:22,800
so to

2338
01:23:26,470 --> 01:23:24,560
but it's still it's still a similar type

2339
01:23:30,149 --> 01:23:26,480
of behavior right so

2340
01:23:32,870 --> 01:23:30,159
uh our system has certain inputs certain

2341
01:23:34,950 --> 01:23:32,880
cultural uh justifications

2342
01:23:37,030 --> 01:23:34,960
and we you know because we're steeped in

2343
01:23:38,950 --> 01:23:37,040
it we we look at certain decisions say

2344
01:23:40,629 --> 01:23:38,960
that that's rational meaning that is

2345
01:23:42,470 --> 01:23:40,639
consistent with this

2346
01:23:44,709 --> 01:23:42,480
system that we find ourselves in or it's

2347
01:23:46,550 --> 01:23:44,719
inconsistent with it and and the truth

2348
01:23:48,790 --> 01:23:46,560
is that there this is happening

2349
01:23:51,110 --> 01:23:48,800
everywhere around the globe on small

2350
01:23:53,510 --> 01:23:51,120
levels and macro levels and

2351
01:23:55,189 --> 01:23:53,520
and when you're not part of that system

2352
01:23:56,550 --> 01:23:55,199
it's easy to look at that and go that's

2353
01:23:58,470 --> 01:23:56,560
irrational you know like that that

2354
01:24:00,390 --> 01:23:58,480
doesn't make any sense but i think what

2355
01:24:01,350 --> 01:24:00,400
you're saying is there is a there is to

2356
01:24:05,510 --> 01:24:01,360
a certain

2357
01:24:07,110 --> 01:24:05,520
degree a level of relativism at work

2358
01:24:08,870 --> 01:24:07,120
it's not that just

2359
01:24:11,590 --> 01:24:08,880
you know it's total madness you know

2360
01:24:14,709 --> 01:24:11,600
it's not complete insanity it's it's

2361
01:24:16,229 --> 01:24:14,719
insanity to us you know from our system

2362
01:24:18,149 --> 01:24:16,239
and i also want to be careful to say

2363
01:24:19,990 --> 01:24:18,159
that it's not you know there are

2364
01:24:21,189 --> 01:24:20,000
legitimately and objectively terrible

2365
01:24:23,430 --> 01:24:21,199
things you know

2366
01:24:25,030 --> 01:24:23,440
regardless of of the system that you

2367
01:24:27,189 --> 01:24:25,040
might find yourself in

2368
01:24:28,709 --> 01:24:27,199
and you know hurting people killing

2369
01:24:30,550 --> 01:24:28,719
people innocent people is not a good

2370
01:24:34,149 --> 01:24:30,560
thing

2371
01:24:36,950 --> 01:24:34,159
yeah um exactly you know but like i just

2372
01:24:39,030 --> 01:24:36,960
you know i just killed like i don't know

2373
01:24:40,310 --> 01:24:39,040
five million of my cells right right i

2374
01:24:42,310 --> 01:24:40,320
don't care

2375
01:24:44,709 --> 01:24:42,320
until it starts like affecting my

2376
01:24:46,950 --> 01:24:44,719
ability at the at my level to actually

2377
01:24:48,709 --> 01:24:46,960
function right um

2378
01:24:50,550 --> 01:24:48,719
you know they that's why you're like how

2379
01:24:53,910 --> 01:24:50,560
could this it's a machine i mean it's an

2380
01:24:55,430 --> 01:24:53,920
organic cybernetic giant machine

2381
01:24:57,910 --> 01:24:55,440
um

2382
01:25:00,149 --> 01:24:57,920
yeah and you know it's it to me it seems

2383
01:25:02,629 --> 01:25:00,159
so obvious when you start looking at it

2384
01:25:04,870 --> 01:25:02,639
in that in that light but it's again

2385
01:25:06,470 --> 01:25:04,880
it's hard to look past your own humanity

2386
01:25:07,910 --> 01:25:06,480
you know

2387
01:25:09,669 --> 01:25:07,920
these have got to be quick hitters

2388
01:25:11,350 --> 01:25:09,679
because we only have about six minutes

2389
01:25:13,990 --> 01:25:11,360
left with you so let's get kevin in

2390
01:25:14,950 --> 01:25:14,000
there and then debs please

2391
01:25:16,390 --> 01:25:14,960
okay

2392
01:25:17,830 --> 01:25:16,400
so um

2393
01:25:19,189 --> 01:25:17,840
it's funny because i've been joking

2394
01:25:21,030 --> 01:25:19,199
about free wheel vision versus

2395
01:25:23,110 --> 01:25:21,040
determinism in every episode and you

2396
01:25:23,910 --> 01:25:23,120
guys were just talking about it so i'm

2397
01:25:25,830 --> 01:25:23,920
like

2398
01:25:27,830 --> 01:25:25,840
um so you're obviously a deterministic

2399
01:25:29,910 --> 01:25:27,840
you're you believe that all behavior has

2400
01:25:31,430 --> 01:25:29,920
a cause and is predictable

2401
01:25:32,870 --> 01:25:31,440
so in your model

2402
01:25:37,110 --> 01:25:32,880
i don't know

2403
01:25:39,430 --> 01:25:37,120
know what that means but yeah well

2404
01:25:41,189 --> 01:25:39,440
determinism is the opposite of free will

2405
01:25:43,110 --> 01:25:41,199
so

2406
01:25:45,189 --> 01:25:43,120
yeah yeah that's what sam harris says i

2407
01:25:46,390 --> 01:25:45,199
don't know actually oh so yeah okay

2408
01:25:47,750 --> 01:25:46,400
where do you stand that would be a

2409
01:25:51,189 --> 01:25:47,760
question then

2410
01:25:52,870 --> 01:25:51,199
i i don't know the the full question um

2411
01:25:55,030 --> 01:25:52,880
okay i don't know um

2412
01:25:56,550 --> 01:25:55,040
sold on free will i'm not sure uh oh

2413
01:25:57,590 --> 01:25:56,560
interesting

2414
01:25:59,510 --> 01:25:57,600
yeah

2415
01:26:01,350 --> 01:25:59,520
okay well that was it that was a quick

2416
01:26:03,669 --> 01:26:01,360
question

2417
01:26:06,070 --> 01:26:03,679
all right is there is there free will or

2418
01:26:07,990 --> 01:26:06,080
my question is um well

2419
01:26:09,270 --> 01:26:08,000
do you believe yeah that there's a free

2420
01:26:10,950 --> 01:26:09,280
will or they do you think that all

2421
01:26:13,189 --> 01:26:10,960
behavior has a cause and is thus

2422
01:26:17,189 --> 01:26:13,199
predictable do you think that we're just

2423
01:26:22,229 --> 01:26:19,110
i don't know i hope not

2424
01:26:25,270 --> 01:26:22,239
i hope not to be really boring

2425
01:26:30,709 --> 01:26:27,350
i doubt it i i think we're definitely

2426
01:26:32,229 --> 01:26:30,719
creatures of our environment um

2427
01:26:34,070 --> 01:26:32,239
but i think the the thoughts and

2428
01:26:35,830 --> 01:26:34,080
everything come you know from somewhere

2429
01:26:37,669 --> 01:26:35,840
else it seems like

2430
01:26:39,030 --> 01:26:37,679
if we can prove this link telepath you

2431
01:26:40,470 --> 01:26:39,040
know if it does actually exist that

2432
01:26:41,830 --> 01:26:40,480
radiant is correct these scientific

2433
01:26:43,830 --> 01:26:41,840
studies are correct

2434
01:26:45,910 --> 01:26:43,840
uh rving certainly i mean the government

2435
01:26:47,350 --> 01:26:45,920
used it for 30 years remote viewing

2436
01:26:48,790 --> 01:26:47,360
if there's a telepathic link then that

2437
01:26:51,189 --> 01:26:48,800
would that would suggest to me that

2438
01:26:53,110 --> 01:26:51,199
there's some extra physical

2439
01:26:53,990 --> 01:26:53,120
extra physical thing

2440
01:26:55,430 --> 01:26:54,000
yeah

2441
01:26:57,590 --> 01:26:55,440
so does that experiment too you're

2442
01:26:59,350 --> 01:26:57,600
talking about earlier that kind of

2443
01:27:01,270 --> 01:26:59,360
proves it because it was actually the

2444
01:27:02,390 --> 01:27:01,280
thought would move the beam over you

2445
01:27:04,950 --> 01:27:02,400
know

2446
01:27:07,350 --> 01:27:04,960
yes yeah yeah i kind of proved something

2447
01:27:08,790 --> 01:27:07,360
too consciousness may be a carrier wave

2448
01:27:11,669 --> 01:27:08,800
you're theorizing i think it's really

2449
01:27:13,910 --> 01:27:11,679
interesting that you said that

2450
01:27:16,070 --> 01:27:13,920
yeah i think um well i know at the end

2451
01:27:18,629 --> 01:27:16,080
of the day you know i just want to i

2452
01:27:20,470 --> 01:27:18,639
think i think most people

2453
01:27:22,550 --> 01:27:20,480
just want to have a happy life with

2454
01:27:23,910 --> 01:27:22,560
their families you know

2455
01:27:26,229 --> 01:27:23,920
and i think that um

2456
01:27:27,110 --> 01:27:26,239
[Music]

2457
01:27:28,790 --> 01:27:27,120
you know

2458
01:27:30,310 --> 01:27:28,800
it doesn't even matter what it what the

2459
01:27:32,229 --> 01:27:30,320
answer is at the end of the day you know

2460
01:27:33,830 --> 01:27:32,239
if we achieve that and people have can

2461
01:27:35,430 --> 01:27:33,840
have a meaningful life

2462
01:27:37,510 --> 01:27:35,440
then

2463
01:27:39,750 --> 01:27:37,520
you know does free will where does it

2464
01:27:40,790 --> 01:27:39,760
come from even really matter i i don't

2465
01:27:43,030 --> 01:27:40,800
know

2466
01:27:45,510 --> 01:27:43,040
um i certainly feel like

2467
01:27:47,669 --> 01:27:45,520
so what i think is that um

2468
01:27:49,430 --> 01:27:47,679
the future doesn't really exist

2469
01:27:50,790 --> 01:27:49,440
uh it's basically just probabilities

2470
01:27:52,709 --> 01:27:50,800
that can happen

2471
01:27:54,550 --> 01:27:52,719
uh basically waves i think that's where

2472
01:27:55,750 --> 01:27:54,560
the future is quantum essentially where

2473
01:27:58,229 --> 01:27:55,760
it's uh it's

2474
01:28:00,310 --> 01:27:58,239
it's not so set maybe there are certain

2475
01:28:01,990 --> 01:28:00,320
there's a certain probability function

2476
01:28:04,149 --> 01:28:02,000
you can end up in

2477
01:28:06,470 --> 01:28:04,159
but it's not set until it becomes the

2478
01:28:07,910 --> 01:28:06,480
now right until we manifest it or until

2479
01:28:09,030 --> 01:28:07,920
the universe actually observes it

2480
01:28:10,390 --> 01:28:09,040
somehow

2481
01:28:12,709 --> 01:28:10,400
um so i think that's where the

2482
01:28:15,030 --> 01:28:12,719
information may be changing right so if

2483
01:28:17,669 --> 01:28:15,040
it's just if information just be being

2484
01:28:19,750 --> 01:28:17,679
sent it's not changing um

2485
01:28:21,110 --> 01:28:19,760
maybe that's waves right because that's

2486
01:28:22,790 --> 01:28:21,120
why you want to use waves to send

2487
01:28:24,390 --> 01:28:22,800
information that's why we use lasers and

2488
01:28:26,229 --> 01:28:24,400
such like that to send information

2489
01:28:28,229 --> 01:28:26,239
because you can stack waves you can just

2490
01:28:31,189 --> 01:28:28,239
stack them so you can just continue to

2491
01:28:32,310 --> 01:28:31,199
stack uh communication and info and

2492
01:28:33,430 --> 01:28:32,320
energy

2493
01:28:35,430 --> 01:28:33,440
um

2494
01:28:36,950 --> 01:28:35,440
but you can't when it's a particle right

2495
01:28:38,550 --> 01:28:36,960
we can't stack particles at least that

2496
01:28:40,790 --> 01:28:38,560
we know of so that's where we're like

2497
01:28:43,270 --> 01:28:40,800
we're hitting together um and so maybe

2498
01:28:45,110 --> 01:28:43,280
that's where it's it's uh processing you

2499
01:28:47,750 --> 01:28:45,120
know maybe like the the hitchhiker's

2500
01:28:49,590 --> 01:28:47,760
guide of the galaxy is real 42.

2501
01:28:51,990 --> 01:28:49,600
yeah uh

2502
01:28:55,110 --> 01:28:52,000
and that it requires us is to process

2503
01:28:57,350 --> 01:28:55,120
the information and to make to make it

2504
01:28:59,270 --> 01:28:57,360
real i guess or to uh

2505
01:29:03,030 --> 01:28:59,280
to affect it um

2506
01:29:07,110 --> 01:29:05,030
i love it past we can change the path

2507
01:29:09,270 --> 01:29:07,120
that would be my question is uh can we

2508
01:29:11,110 --> 01:29:09,280
change the past well bill and ted

2509
01:29:14,229 --> 01:29:11,120
obviously prove that you can so i think

2510
01:29:16,229 --> 01:29:14,239
that's resolved um but we do right we

2511
01:29:18,390 --> 01:29:16,239
rewrite it definitely

2512
01:29:20,229 --> 01:29:18,400
you're writing history but you're right

2513
01:29:22,709 --> 01:29:20,239
change the past all the time man

2514
01:29:24,310 --> 01:29:22,719
changeable past is changeable

2515
01:29:26,229 --> 01:29:24,320
the future doesn't exist the past is

2516
01:29:28,390 --> 01:29:26,239
changeable and the now who knows what

2517
01:29:30,550 --> 01:29:28,400
the hell it is

2518
01:29:32,550 --> 01:29:30,560
you have the last question i know i i

2519
01:29:34,709 --> 01:29:32,560
have all this time so i'm just going to

2520
01:29:36,950 --> 01:29:34,719
ask you about the life of the universe

2521
01:29:38,709 --> 01:29:36,960
and everything but now we're good you

2522
01:29:40,709 --> 01:29:38,719
already said 42. so

2523
01:29:42,950 --> 01:29:40,719
um i think i'll just ask if you got to

2524
01:29:46,229 --> 01:29:42,960
go to turkey and explore that because

2525
01:29:48,070 --> 01:29:46,239
you're really interested in that um

2526
01:29:50,229 --> 01:29:48,080
i i really hope this summer i actually

2527
01:29:52,470 --> 01:29:50,239
at the last uh conference i went to

2528
01:29:54,870 --> 01:29:52,480
paris for the nft conference and i met

2529
01:29:56,790 --> 01:29:54,880
some guys in turkey some really friendly

2530
01:29:59,750 --> 01:29:56,800
and of course they're super friendly and

2531
01:30:01,430 --> 01:29:59,760
they said it's full up calm it's safe uh

2532
01:30:03,830 --> 01:30:01,440
they'll help me out

2533
01:30:05,270 --> 01:30:03,840
and uh i think i can do it this summer

2534
01:30:06,790 --> 01:30:05,280
for sure i'll go for sure i'm trying to

2535
01:30:07,510 --> 01:30:06,800
get my family to go but maybe maybe just

2536
01:30:11,110 --> 01:30:07,520
me

2537
01:30:13,110 --> 01:30:11,120
about that particular craft uh that that

2538
01:30:15,830 --> 01:30:13,120
a video of the craft where

2539
01:30:18,709 --> 01:30:15,840
apparent beings were visible

2540
01:30:21,030 --> 01:30:18,719
that's yeah they had three summers 2007

2541
01:30:22,070 --> 01:30:21,040
8-9 in turkey were they had mass

2542
01:30:23,590 --> 01:30:22,080
sightings

2543
01:30:24,950 --> 01:30:23,600
so it wasn't just the videos there's a

2544
01:30:26,229 --> 01:30:24,960
lot of video which is interesting

2545
01:30:27,910 --> 01:30:26,239
interesting to me

2546
01:30:29,350 --> 01:30:27,920
but supposedly there was a lot of other

2547
01:30:31,189 --> 01:30:29,360
sightings as well

2548
01:30:33,510 --> 01:30:31,199
i think there'd be a lot of value if you

2549
01:30:36,070 --> 01:30:33,520
do to the community if you do

2550
01:30:38,950 --> 01:30:36,080
get to go there uh chris if you could uh

2551
01:30:41,590 --> 01:30:38,960
take these uh the last couple of seconds

2552
01:30:43,430 --> 01:30:41,600
or minutes here if you if you wish to

2553
01:30:45,189 --> 01:30:43,440
uh put out whatever you'd like to the

2554
01:30:46,950 --> 01:30:45,199
community what everything that you're

2555
01:30:48,709 --> 01:30:46,960
involved in

2556
01:30:50,629 --> 01:30:48,719
yeah excellent i mean the the biggest

2557
01:30:51,830 --> 01:30:50,639
thing right now is to build an open

2558
01:30:54,390 --> 01:30:51,840
source

2559
01:30:56,790 --> 01:30:54,400
community uh on discord where people can

2560
01:30:58,470 --> 01:30:56,800
come and contribute and

2561
01:31:00,149 --> 01:30:58,480
you know be respected be able to talk

2562
01:31:02,149 --> 01:31:00,159
about these things you know it's you can

2563
01:31:03,669 --> 01:31:02,159
be anonymous on discord you know your

2564
01:31:05,590 --> 01:31:03,679
digital id will be remembered you don't

2565
01:31:08,470 --> 01:31:05,600
have to link that with you

2566
01:31:10,390 --> 01:31:08,480
um so just come and participate

2567
01:31:11,669 --> 01:31:10,400
that would be the biggest thing and and

2568
01:31:14,070 --> 01:31:11,679
we need everything right we need the

2569
01:31:15,750 --> 01:31:14,080
people that have the ideas we need the

2570
01:31:18,149 --> 01:31:15,760
you know experiences there to actually

2571
01:31:20,390 --> 01:31:18,159
give their experiences um people with

2572
01:31:22,070 --> 01:31:20,400
evidence people that have analysis uh

2573
01:31:23,910 --> 01:31:22,080
capabilities you know the idea is it's

2574
01:31:25,669 --> 01:31:23,920
it's a community and then we're gonna

2575
01:31:29,110 --> 01:31:25,679
i'm gonna put the funding there through

2576
01:31:30,709 --> 01:31:29,120
the nfts you know so people can invest

2577
01:31:32,310 --> 01:31:30,719
um

2578
01:31:35,030 --> 01:31:32,320
i believe it'll return you know i don't

2579
01:31:36,470 --> 01:31:35,040
want to leverage my audience or whatever

2580
01:31:37,750 --> 01:31:36,480
you know i'm not trying i don't want to

2581
01:31:39,189 --> 01:31:37,760
sell to people

2582
01:31:41,189 --> 01:31:39,199
um

2583
01:31:43,430 --> 01:31:41,199
but i do want to affect the needle i

2584
01:31:44,470 --> 01:31:43,440
want to move the needle and i think

2585
01:31:46,709 --> 01:31:44,480
we're in it

2586
01:31:48,310 --> 01:31:46,719
just a unique opportunity here you know

2587
01:31:50,149 --> 01:31:48,320
i didn't want to actually build a

2588
01:31:51,750 --> 01:31:50,159
company and do all the stuff for until

2589
01:31:53,270 --> 01:31:51,760
my kids got out of got out of high

2590
01:31:55,110 --> 01:31:53,280
school you know

2591
01:31:57,430 --> 01:31:55,120
but the opportunity is just too great

2592
01:31:59,510 --> 01:31:57,440
like web 3's come in we can leverage it

2593
01:32:01,350 --> 01:31:59,520
we can actually move the needle

2594
01:32:03,270 --> 01:32:01,360
um but it's going to take everybody so

2595
01:32:05,669 --> 01:32:03,280
that's what i would say is you know uap

2596
01:32:07,750 --> 01:32:05,679
society come contribute

2597
01:32:09,910 --> 01:32:07,760
just in some way hang out

2598
01:32:13,390 --> 01:32:09,920
that would be the best discord it go

2599
01:32:15,110 --> 01:32:13,400
check out chris lato it's at

2600
01:32:16,709 --> 01:32:15,120
chrisotis78

2601
01:32:18,310 --> 01:32:16,719
on twitter which would tell you that

2602
01:32:21,189 --> 01:32:18,320
he's younger than me

2603
01:32:23,189 --> 01:32:21,199
uh by 11 years but who's counting

2604
01:32:25,590 --> 01:32:23,199
uh great

2605
01:32:27,510 --> 01:32:25,600
it's the skincare it's a dj skincare

2606
01:32:29,990 --> 01:32:27,520
formula which is i'd be happy to send

2607
01:32:31,990 --> 01:32:30,000
some to chris over in portugal only put

2608
01:32:33,750 --> 01:32:32,000
it on at night do not put it out on when

2609
01:32:35,750 --> 01:32:33,760
you're going out in the sun i'll be in

2610
01:32:37,350 --> 01:32:35,760
utah they're flying me to utah so guys

2611
01:32:38,390 --> 01:32:37,360
you know support the conference yeah

2612
01:32:40,790 --> 01:32:38,400
they paid for it they're not i don't

2613
01:32:43,270 --> 01:32:40,800
think they're making any money man um so

2614
01:32:44,390 --> 01:32:43,280
the tickets yeah you can come in person

2615
01:32:45,590 --> 01:32:44,400
i'll be there

2616
01:32:48,070 --> 01:32:45,600
i think it's

2617
01:32:50,310 --> 01:32:48,080
vip tickets may still be available at

2618
01:32:51,910 --> 01:32:50,320
least a live stream i'm having my hip

2619
01:32:53,910 --> 01:32:51,920
replaced so i probably

2620
01:32:55,189 --> 01:32:53,920
i'd probably be more likely to stream

2621
01:32:57,430 --> 01:32:55,199
but um

2622
01:32:59,590 --> 01:32:57,440
it's cool yeah travis taylor we'll have

2623
01:33:00,390 --> 01:32:59,600
avi lope i heard there's going to be uh

2624
01:33:01,910 --> 01:33:00,400
from the

2625
01:33:03,510 --> 01:33:01,920
cousin brothers

2626
01:33:05,669 --> 01:33:03,520
there's going to be a disclosure movie

2627
01:33:07,270 --> 01:33:05,679
played one of i guess their upcoming

2628
01:33:08,870 --> 01:33:07,280
movie

2629
01:33:11,270 --> 01:33:08,880
it should be exciting

2630
01:33:13,350 --> 01:33:11,280
yeah um i personally from a personal

2631
01:33:15,590 --> 01:33:13,360
standpoint coming from the background

2632
01:33:17,590 --> 01:33:15,600
that we both come from i'm very very

2633
01:33:19,590 --> 01:33:17,600
proud of you and what you're doing in

2634
01:33:20,950 --> 01:33:19,600
the way that you reflect

2635
01:33:24,149 --> 01:33:20,960
credit on

2636
01:33:26,390 --> 01:33:24,159
us so i thank you for that please check

2637
01:33:28,709 --> 01:33:26,400
out chris he's dope

2638
01:33:31,030 --> 01:33:28,719
uh give us a like and a subscribe for

2639
01:33:33,189 --> 01:33:31,040
all this work we putting in

2640
01:33:34,310 --> 01:33:33,199
that's all we gonna ask of you

2641
01:33:36,950 --> 01:33:34,320
so for

2642
01:33:39,990 --> 01:33:36,960
for uh mr chris lato the f-16 pilot for

2643
01:33:40,870 --> 01:33:40,000
money nathan kevin and debs this is dj

2644
01:33:42,229 --> 01:33:40,880
saying

2645
01:33:44,390 --> 01:33:42,239
peace out

2646
01:33:45,910 --> 01:33:44,400
one love and we'll see you down the road

2647
01:33:47,350 --> 01:33:45,920
we're always wondering what's up around

2648
01:33:49,030 --> 01:33:47,360
the bend

2649
01:33:50,470 --> 01:33:49,040
thanks everybody for being here thanks

2650
01:33:53,460 --> 01:33:50,480
for having me guys thanks for all your